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by darylehret on 01 January 2013 - 20:01
Only $246 on Amazon right now. That's about a third of what it was selling for when I joined this forum :-)
by guddu on 01 January 2013 - 20:01
Buy used...the older edition is less expensive. Anyone know, if its worth paying for the new edition.
by loujolly on 01 January 2013 - 21:01
So here is what I have also posted elsewhere regarding general traits I have seen from certain lines, might kick off a bit more of a discussion for you:
Ugo Burenswald - handler aggression, poor tracking, weak females.
Tom Leefdaalhof - excellent natural tracking, good grips and barking, many current competition dogs from Ellute Mohnwiese and Vito Waldwinkel, both Tom sons. Some do not handle stress well, particularly females. Often very good looking, some long coats, umbilical hernias. Tom is very common in pedigrees right now.
Fero/Troll/Timmy - IMO a little Fero goes a long way, a little Fero brings nice prey, good grips, nice tracking, too much Fero can have nerve problems.
Lord Gleisdreieck - a little goes a long way like Fero.
Yoschy Dollenwiese - varied reports, in my experience, awesome temperaments and grips, no dog aggression, easy in house, seems to be health issues such as dying of cancer young.
Ahron Granit Rose - big males with nice heads, slow maturing, huge grips, willing dogs, fun to train, but also HD and allergies/other health problems
Arec Bunsenkocher - allergies
Ufo Guys Hof - Lots of prey, ball drive, awesome long bites, healthy, long lived, two sons still competing when quite old include Cayos av Xazziam, Aceofnike vh Bleekhof, soft ears.
Crok/Lewis/Mink - Prey drive, aggression, Crok was known for handler aggression, this line seems to be becoming rarer
Gildo Korbelbach - small, strong, watch for HD
Aly Vordersteinwald - brings good hips, but watch nerve, particularly in females
Olix Karthago - aggression, solid temperament
Afra Stoppenberger Land - solid temperament, can be stubborn
Dago Schwarzen Pegasus - slow maturing, big dogs
Pike Shafbachmuhle - good obedience, some people say back problems come from Pike, but I haven't seen it myself.
Karthago - known for strong females and good health
- Louise Jollyman -
'It's Bode, he's famous!'
http://www.bodeus.com
http://www.brimwylf.com
http://www.schutzhund-training.com
Ugo Burenswald - handler aggression, poor tracking, weak females.
Tom Leefdaalhof - excellent natural tracking, good grips and barking, many current competition dogs from Ellute Mohnwiese and Vito Waldwinkel, both Tom sons. Some do not handle stress well, particularly females. Often very good looking, some long coats, umbilical hernias. Tom is very common in pedigrees right now.
Fero/Troll/Timmy - IMO a little Fero goes a long way, a little Fero brings nice prey, good grips, nice tracking, too much Fero can have nerve problems.
Lord Gleisdreieck - a little goes a long way like Fero.
Yoschy Dollenwiese - varied reports, in my experience, awesome temperaments and grips, no dog aggression, easy in house, seems to be health issues such as dying of cancer young.
Ahron Granit Rose - big males with nice heads, slow maturing, huge grips, willing dogs, fun to train, but also HD and allergies/other health problems
Arec Bunsenkocher - allergies
Ufo Guys Hof - Lots of prey, ball drive, awesome long bites, healthy, long lived, two sons still competing when quite old include Cayos av Xazziam, Aceofnike vh Bleekhof, soft ears.
Crok/Lewis/Mink - Prey drive, aggression, Crok was known for handler aggression, this line seems to be becoming rarer
Gildo Korbelbach - small, strong, watch for HD
Aly Vordersteinwald - brings good hips, but watch nerve, particularly in females
Olix Karthago - aggression, solid temperament
Afra Stoppenberger Land - solid temperament, can be stubborn
Dago Schwarzen Pegasus - slow maturing, big dogs
Pike Shafbachmuhle - good obedience, some people say back problems come from Pike, but I haven't seen it myself.
Karthago - known for strong females and good health
- Louise Jollyman -
'It's Bode, he's famous!'
http://www.bodeus.com
http://www.brimwylf.com
http://www.schutzhund-training.com
by Gustav on 02 January 2013 - 01:01
@loujolly....not bad generalizations from my experiences. Of course there will be some contrarians who knew dogs that didn't fit these generilations, but I will put it like this.....if I see the stuff you posted following the individual dogs, I am not surprised.
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