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by GSDguy08 on 03 May 2012 - 15:05

by Hundmutter on 03 May 2012 - 16:05
would agree that unless you have money to burn - and perhaps even then, if its a question of giving them extra time but at huge cost of pain etc - you ought let let them go with their dignity intact. Its one thing we CAN do for the animal members of our families that we are not able to do legally for humans.
I once heard a Vet say very eloquently what a privilege he considered it to be able to do this for animals. If your Vet doesnt feel that way, maybe you change your Vet ?

by Keith Grossman on 03 May 2012 - 19:05
This is what it comes down to for me with something like chemo; the dog's quality of life is diminished, he doesn't understand what's going on, and you're only prolonging the inevitable anyway.
by LynOD on 04 May 2012 - 17:05
Lyn

by momosgarage on 04 May 2012 - 19:05
LynOD
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-409597/Injections-pure-gold-ease-arthritis.html
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2009/06/090626084633.htm
Biphosphate by IV may also help, Its done quite often in horses, less so in dogs:
http://www.equinechronicle.com/health/navicular-disease-and-treatments.html
Also, which stem cell separation procedure did your vet use? Was it Medi-vet or Vet-stem ?
by Rass on 04 May 2012 - 19:05
I have an upper limit I will spend. Period. I will spend more on a young dog with a good prognosis than on an old dog with limited prognosis.. or any age dog with a poor prognosis but will not spend past the limit.
The real difficulty is knowing when to do it. I try to make sure the animal is still feeling pretty good when I take him in knowing full well that this is due to change in hours or days. I try to make sure that Euthanizing is truly "easy death" and do not wait until the animal is in so much pain or is so ill that it is all hard.
Honestly, I want the whole process.. from diagnosis to decision to be hard on ME and NOT hard on my Dog!!!
My dog should NEVER suffer. Ever.

by Spooks on 05 May 2012 - 07:05
About 12 years ago our big and gorgeous GSD was diagnosed with cancer of the spleen. Our vet at the time explained clearly and in depth the options open to us. After deep thought we decided to go with the option to remove the spleen and hope the cancer hadn't spread. There was a 50/50 chance it hadn't and it could prolong his life hopefully for up to a year and if we were really lucky for more than a year.
Sadly we only had another 3 weeks with our boy and the last two weeks were heartbreaking, seeing him suffer not only was he recovering from a major operation but was also fighting the cancer cells that had spread. His eyes would look at me as if he was saying... 'what have you done to me mum?' He could have had his last few weeks/months being looked after/nursed and not having to go through the process of now what I see as an unnecessary operation and he could have passed on with some dignity.
I vowed at the time that if any other dog I owned in the same position and didn't have a not very good prognosis or longevity of life for only weeks/months, I would never put it through treatment that would cause suffering to prolong it's life for a few extra months.
Now 12 years on and if I was faced with the situation I really don't know what I would do... but I can see how people will do anything at whatever the cost to prolong the life of their dogs. I really hope that they take into consideration first and foremost any more suffering their dog might have to endure because they want to prolong it's life.

by Hundmutter on 05 May 2012 - 07:05
My friend & colleague is convinced that opening them up for surgery makes the secondaries metastasize, where they would not have done if you had not disturbed the dogs body systems through operating ! I dunno if theres anything to her theory or not.
I reckon my way of looking at it depends on the age of the dog: if he/she is still relatively young & lively, it doesn't matter what you spend to try to put problems right. But if the dog is getting on in years and maybe doesn't have such a good quality of life, arthitic or whatever, then let it go before it suffers. The very last thing anyone should do, IMO, is to prolong a dogs life just to keep it with them because they can't bear to let it go. Understandable, but selfish.
by Rass on 05 May 2012 - 11:05
Had a cat with cancer. Talked to the Vet. He was honest. He said, "You can spend $5k on chemo and in 5 months your cat will likely die and be sick the whole time.. OR you can give the cat Prednisone, make her comfortable and you will get the same 5 months." I went with the Pred and the cat was happy.. even healthy acting.. for another 2 years.
I would NEVER opt for Chemo on a dog or cat.
Life is what it is. No suffering is rule one. If it looks like there might be a chance with surgery, first refer to rule one.
Is it hard? YES! I will always opt for the loss to be harder on me than the care making it harder on the animal just to make me feel better. It is NOT about me. It IS about the animal.

by Felloffher on 05 May 2012 - 13:05
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