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by michael49 on 13 October 2011 - 13:10
Well said Gustav. You can lead a horse to water but you can't make him drink, sad but true.
by Cassandra Marie on 13 October 2011 - 15:10
Gustav:
I was very pleased to read your comments about genetic diversity. Concidentally, last night the public tv station had a wonderful hour long piece called"Pedigree Dogs Exposed". It was quite interesting in that geneticsts were interviiewed and they were appalled at the tight linebreeding and inbreeding that occurs in pedigree dogs. They expressed the scientific opinion that this could be the demise of purebred dogs, citing the numerous health issues that exist in the various breeds. The Kennel Club ( British)and breeders pooh poohed the geneticsts input. One of the breeds studied was the GSD. In this piece there were skeletal examples of the GSD in Max's days vs the show GSD of today and how the breed has changed. Of course the topline was one of the biggest differences and how this has contributed to weak rears and wobbly hocks. When shown a picture of a working line GSD, the GSD judge that was interviewed said quite predictably " that dog would never do anything in the breed ring". When he was shown a picture of the GSD from Max's time and how closely it compared to the modern working line GSD, he just shrugged it off. Enough pressure has been put on one of the European countries ( I think it may have been Sweden), that their kennel club will no longer register dogs of inbreeding or even grandparent to grand get.
Re: Grim - our Grim daughter lived to be 12 yrs. old . Thankfully she never suffered with bloat.
Cassandra
I was very pleased to read your comments about genetic diversity. Concidentally, last night the public tv station had a wonderful hour long piece called"Pedigree Dogs Exposed". It was quite interesting in that geneticsts were interviiewed and they were appalled at the tight linebreeding and inbreeding that occurs in pedigree dogs. They expressed the scientific opinion that this could be the demise of purebred dogs, citing the numerous health issues that exist in the various breeds. The Kennel Club ( British)and breeders pooh poohed the geneticsts input. One of the breeds studied was the GSD. In this piece there were skeletal examples of the GSD in Max's days vs the show GSD of today and how the breed has changed. Of course the topline was one of the biggest differences and how this has contributed to weak rears and wobbly hocks. When shown a picture of a working line GSD, the GSD judge that was interviewed said quite predictably " that dog would never do anything in the breed ring". When he was shown a picture of the GSD from Max's time and how closely it compared to the modern working line GSD, he just shrugged it off. Enough pressure has been put on one of the European countries ( I think it may have been Sweden), that their kennel club will no longer register dogs of inbreeding or even grandparent to grand get.
Re: Grim - our Grim daughter lived to be 12 yrs. old . Thankfully she never suffered with bloat.
Cassandra
by Emoore on 14 October 2011 - 17:10
There ought to be an easier way to research how long your dog's relatives lived and what they died of. I wish that info were on PDB along with hips/elbows and titles. I care way more about having a dog live 12 or 14 long and healthy years instead of 5 or 7 than I do about whether his parents have SchHII or III.
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