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by Vikram on 27 August 2011 - 04:08
I think you are just trying to stir the pot here. Why do you want to breed mongrels???. If you like CZEch dog s why do you go in for a pure czech line. Obviously there must be missing something in czech lines to just take one czech bitch and breed it to such heavy WG lines? WHy pose this question in the first place? Keep your choices simple. All czech breeders are breeding to the latest WG dogs out there the so called hot commodities to improve their lines. THe breeder in question could have taken a strong WG bitch and maintained the bloodline. As to why I don;t like CZECH lines you can search on this baord and go through old duels I have had and the bashing I have taken on this baord for openly speaking my views
good luck
by DAK44 on 27 August 2011 - 05:08
Cheers
by steve1 on 27 August 2011 - 07:08
I would myself Mate to another Dog which in its self is from a line bred family,
You are going for a complete outcross with the Blood you are looking at. You will not be doing the line above much favours in the chance of enhancing the bloodline
If you Line Breed you then mate that line bred Dog to another dog which is also a product of a line bred family Not a complete cross if you get my meaning for me if you go ahead then you will lose the value of the Line breeding
I will go further when you Line Breed a family You are doing it to try and Fix the Good Qualities of the ancestors namely a certain Dog in the Pedigree, Now you can Line breed for many generations lets say it is a male so therefore you are line breeding to the Paternal line, The Females you bring in are in effect Crosses, But not the same as the way you have mentioned above
The Females you bring in are Crosses but from another LINE BRED Family and not a product of a Cross that is the huge difference, Now these females are for a start no way related to the male in the first 5 generations after that it does not matter if a dog or dogs figure in the breeding
Steve1
by Gustav on 27 August 2011 - 18:08
by Gustav on 27 August 2011 - 18:08
by ShelleyR on 27 August 2011 - 19:08
by steve1 on 27 August 2011 - 20:08
By mating two Linebred Dogs together you already have a more fixed characteristics than mating a Line bred Dog to one which is a cross but already a product of cross breeding, This way you will weaken and eliminate all the good points of the Line bred side in a short time, By mating two different lines of two Dogs in which themselves are of line bred families you are also introducing a cross but an hybrid cross better than a Line bred dog to an already out crossed dog.
The Cross of the line bred families will automatically introduce a shot in the arm and vigour into the Pups, It is fact that if you breed on a Line bred Family whether it be the Paternal or the Maternal line. mostly the lines are based on the Maternal line and Top females from line bred families are bought in never another Dog of the Paternal line. WE assume all is well with Joints etc otherwise the dog would not be considered. I hope the OP does not mind but i have put Hektors pedigree on here so he can see they have a similar pattern, This Pedigree is also on the Tom thread
Steve1
http://www.pedigreedatabase.com/german_shepherd_dog/dog.html?id=721371
by Gustav on 27 August 2011 - 22:08
The problem is when you have an intensely linebred dog you DO have more intensely fixed traits....Good and Bad!! Unfortunately, there is no dog that does not carry negative recessives that become expotientally stronger when linebred. The pedigree of Hektor is a very nice strong linebred pedigree. Thanks!
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