Breeding german shepherd questions - Page 3

Jeff
Very nice post. I couldnt agree more!

Q.How do you become a millionaire breeding GSD's?
A. Start off as a Billionaire.

First you say this.
"I have been spending months studing the breed and I am going to the library getting different books."

Then this.
"If I have a female in the house with the male, how can I control how many times they can breed. I am scared that she will just get pregnant all the time and i do not want that."

What sort of books are you reading????????

gsm44,

That is what makes me think the psot could be a bait.  No one could be this stupid.  Or could they be? 

That are so many people here that should not even being posting anything. Especially  gsm 44. If I am asking questions is because I am learning and I do not know anything about breeding. A question is never too stupid to ask. At this point I am only reading books about german Shepherd not breeding. That is the reason why I am asking questions to find out more about the topic by people that have experience and learn from them. I am sure any responsible breeder started from scratch just like me. At the end I am might not doing it but at this point I am just learning about and see if is something I want to do.  I know what it takes to take care of german shepherds. 2 months ago we had a really bad storm that blew down my fence. I took my dog outside without knowing that and my dog ran to the other side of the house and was hit by a car. I spent 2000 $ for his surgery to save his leg. So I know things can always go wrong and you need be there for the dog. I did not regret any of the money I  spent because I love my dog. I really appreciate the advices from so many good people, that is what I was looking for.  Also one more thing according to my dog's genealogy , his great granparents came from Germany and had many titles. So for what I am learning is that a lot of german shepherds line are mixed with other lines. Another thing I would love to do is to train my dog in obbedience maybe utility or rally.He is starting his class at the end of July.

Since you are getting the crap hammered out of you anyway, make up a list of goals that you would like to achieve in breeding within the next 10 years. Then post it and read through all the posts, good and bad. In there somewhere will be some information that you can use.

Holy crap, I agree with Jeff. Knock me over with a feather.

Adelfilippo, make the list! I'll contribute in any way I can.

You must keep these things in mind:

FORM- Is your dog anatomically correct and free of disqualifying faults? Present your dog before an unbiased SV judge and see what rating you get. Your dog need not be a top winning dog, just correct.

FUNCTION- What can/does your dog do? This, too, should be judged by a third party expert such as a judge or certifying agency. OB/SchH/SAR/LE, something. Simply being a "ggod dog" is not enuogh, especially in this workd economy when very nice dogs rot in shelters regularly.

HEALTH- OFA is a great place to start, for hips AND elbows. Now look into other aspects of health. Does your dog have itchy skin or chronic loose stool? These can be signs of other congenital health issues. Read up on testing for eyes, heart, and DM.

12 years ago I had to godawful dogs I wanted to to make puppies with and dreams of being a breeder. My road to educate myself was a hard one, and people were nasty to me, too. You need thick skin if you want to be in the dog world. Thankfully, I never bred that nervy bitch or that unstable male, because it didn't take me more than a few weeks of homework to realize these were NOT breed quality dogs.

By asking questions you show you care and want to learn. Forgive those who apparently emerged from their mother's womb already experts.

Quote: Holy crap, I agree with Jeff. Knock me over with a feather.

Adelfilippo, make the list! I'll contribute in any way I can.

You must keep these things in mind:

FORM- Is your dog anatomically correct and free of disqualifying faults? Present your dog before an unbiased SV judge and see what rating you get. Your dog need not be a top winning dog, just correct.

FUNCTION- What can/does your dog do? This, too, should be judged by a third party expert such as a judge or certifying agency. OB/SchH/SAR/LE, something. Simply being a "ggod dog" is not enuogh, especially in this workd economy when very nice dogs rot in shelters regularly.

HEALTH- OFA is a great place to start, for hips AND elbows. Now look into other aspects of health. Does your dog have itchy skin or chronic loose stool? These can be signs of other congenital health issues. Read up on testing for eyes, heart, and DM.

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHA

So the first stupid fucking thing you post after agreeing with me is FORM ?? AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAhahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

Seriously, you might as well kick me in the balls, so let me return the favor.

To the OP. NEVER NEVER listen to someone that puts how a dog looks first in the GSD world. HA HA

OP,

What questions do you have?  Specific ones.

I think that alot of advice has been given.  But the truth as many people see it is not what you are looking for.  To me it seems like you bought a GSD, and not want to breed it to get puppies.  If I buy a puppy there is a scepific temperment and aabilities that I am looking for.  I believe that most others here are on the same page.  So when you present what appears th be a haphazard breeding, most people want you to understand enough not to breed this dog.  You said you a looking for a bloodline better than your dog.  Why would you need that?  Because you want to breed up, so to speak.  Finding a mate with complementary artibutes is way different that needing to breed up.  So you are not very receptive to peoples advice. 

Can you at least be honest for a moment and answer the question.  Are you breeding to produce pet quality?

For people who love the breed, this would flat out offend some.  This is what destroys the breed.  You may have gotten your dog from someone who breed a dog and is part of this destruction, and now you want to breed up.  Why buy such a dog for anything other than a pet?

Don't get your panties in a wad, Jeffy. My list is in no particular order and a breeding dog needs all three. Do you think a dog whose structure is so horrible it couldn't even scrape out a G rating is breeding material? Would you want a dog with hare feet, a soft back, weak pasterns, loose hocks, and a poorly positioned stifle to be a working dog that you need to perform a duty for 10 years? If so, you're more of a jackass than I imagined.

NONE of those three points are worth a goddamn without the other two, if you're talking breed quality.

I wanted to breed to improve, that was my desire. I wanted to know if my dog had the qualities to do that. Another breeder told me that I always have to get a better dog to improve the line. But at this point is only a topic I am researching and I wanted some advices on the topic. Don't criticize me like I am trying to be an uresponsible breeder because I am not even a breeder, I am try to  learn to see if in a future I could do that. You can check my dogs and if you know a lot about pedegree you ca give me your opinion but without offending. As I said I want to learn from people that have more experience than me , maybe at the end I will learn that  my dog does not have what it takes for breeding.
Darko III
Akira XIII

     Have your dogs been evaluated by a conformation judge? Have they been evaluated by a working venue? I would get a mentor that does these things and get some one on one answers and help and someone to teach you.

    In the meantime I would stop thinking breeding right now. Find someone correct that you click well with to teach you and do not look at even thinking of breeding until you can look at the pedigrees and dogs on here and know how to see a dog, learn how to read and work a dog, learn how to decipher the pedigrees and what they mean and the lines. Learn the diseases, the genetic problems of the breed. Learn the basic genetics of these dogs.

    I got my first gsd I thought was quality at first and dreams of breeding 7 years ago after spending over a year on here reading and investigating and thinking I knew enough to purchase my first gsd.... wrong. I was still a newb lol!
Here so many years later I am learning more and still have more to learn and no I have not bred a litter yet multiple gsds later. People on here will always attack you for something. There is always something they will not like and you cannot please them. If you do not have thick skin, you will not make it around this place. I am grateful to both the people who were rude and the people who held their hand out to me because I learned important lessons from both. It is more important to me to learn and not about who likes me and who doesnt or who approves of what I am trying to do or wishes to stop people, it is about the breed we all enjoy and doing right by them. I cannot thank some people enough, who stepped forward and helped teach me what they know and I really feel there is not enough mentors available to people ernest in learning our breed. The best advice I can give is listen to everything and watch everything, you will learn who really knows their stuff and who are legends only in their own mind.