Aggresive 13 month old male GS

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by Phil Behun on 22 November 2010 - 02:11

Yep, and most of them lived outside

by Kalibeck on 22 November 2010 - 02:11

Please buy a very good muzzle & make this dog wear it. This dog knows you are afraid, & dogs are opportunists. He will try to dominate you at every turn. If he is not muzzled, he will hurt you. I would advise you to give him up. There are many wonderful dogs out there that will love you & not make you afraid. I don't know his pedigree, but maybe your LEO dog trainer friend can find someone to take him & work with him, & give him a life that you & he could both be happy about. But do not put yourself in jeopardy, it's really not worth it. He's a teen age dog trying to push you around. It says something about his character, not something very nice. An experienced trainer might turn that around, but if he hurts you, it'll be over for him, & may ruin dogs for you. It's not an easy decision, but I wish you a clear head, & lots of luck on your future with this breed. jackie harris

by shrewsbai on 22 November 2010 - 06:11

I should have clarified in the beginning that I'm not looking to train him myself or get tips on the internet for training him but more of options on what I can do with him such as adoption centers and how they work. it hasn't been two weeks since the first k9 session and I will still go to the same guy because he does in fact know what he's doing and I have been referred to him by several people. Phil are you a police officer? You sound like one( please don't take offense to that )

by Phil Behun on 22 November 2010 - 07:11

No but I play one on TV

by sting369 on 22 November 2010 - 07:11

Kinky porn star eh. I had a gut feeling you were the fuzzy cuffs type.

by LadyFrost on 22 November 2010 - 14:11

shrewsbai..ok, it sounds like you want to either replace him or place him up for adoption...have you tried contacting breeder you bought him from? most breeders will take their dogs back..you may be able to trade him for a passive/submissive female... it just seems like at some point you became his versus he is yours...
besides being 17..(most of us here are a bit older) you yourself have not been developed as a person, you have not had your will power tested, you have not had to make life changing decision, it will all come in time...there is so much scary crap out there in the world, you don't need a scary dog on top of that...you don't need to develop involuntary scared reflexes every time you see a GSD...when I was 15 I got chased by a black bull...i had to hop on top of porter potty while that thing hit and circled it...its been a long time but my heart skips a beat every time i see black bull...even though logically i know it wont hurt me, i am either in a car or on the other side of the fence, but i still get that jerk in the pit of my stomach...childhood fears or uncertainties tend to stick...i bet now when you walk into your mothers house your heart is already racing and you are on defense...am I right?
So, contact breeder and see if you can pay difference and trade...or get older dog that does not have aggression issues...you really don't need this at your age...

by loureed on 22 November 2010 - 17:11

Where are you located Shrewsbai?

by alboe2009 on 23 November 2010 - 03:11

After reading all the comments, can't remeber but did she say what she wanted out of or from the dog? I thought I saw somwhere where she said she did not want to train the dog? Are you saying you want the dog to be already trained but you not talking part? Or are you saying that you don't want to train the dog period? And just let him do whatever he wants when he wants?I agree with most of the comments and even understand why the replyers would think like some do.

Its amazing to me to see that there are "two worlds" in the dog ownership arena. One that trains, works and uses their dogs as tools etc; and the other where the dog (and no not just GSDs) but any dog is just there, an ornament, up on the counter, sitting at the dinner table with it's own plate etc.

I don't state that I know everything, all the ins and outs, whys and why nots. And having multiple dogs you'll notice the differences and the likes but I try to ask people "What do want and intend for this dog to do or to do for you? The bond has to be establish....... No partial, no halfway. Maybe she can take a little video clip of how things happen when they are together? Does the police officer (is he a friend or strictly a professional someone introduced) does he take "hands on" ? If so what is his take, remedy?

There are so many variables involved; you, the dog, his lines etc. Did you get the dog at 8 wks? or just now after a year? For me I'm partial................When I get an animal let alone a dog I make a vow to keep that dog for life. No matter how difficult times may become or circumstances arise. I had a set of Chows and said I would wait til they passed before getting GSDs again, Didn't want to show a preference. And that pair lived 17 yrs, traveled New Mexico, all over Europe, Germans loved them, Michigan and ended up in Maryland. It was rough being in the military having them but I'm glad I did it. And now I have three GSDs and hopefully in a few months a breeding?

You stated you had GSDs before? What happened to them? How were they to you? Did you have them there whole lives? If It was me (just my way of thinking) not sure if it would be different being a girl. But I would put a muzzle on him, attempt to have an understanding. Do some serious BONDING. To me Holding back food is a double edge sword. But you are after resuts I would hope? Id have an understanding and if need be, if you're strong enough, some wall to wall counseling! It's not going to happen overnight AND you have to want it. For the long haul, consistency, consistency and then more consistency. Unless he has some mental issues a light bulb is going to turn on and he sees you being the master. AS LONG AS YOU ARE!

by Don Corleone on 23 November 2010 - 03:11

I don't know if this is real. Smells fishy, like an old fake worm. But I agree with Phil. Take him to Petsmart.

by mklevin on 24 November 2010 - 21:11

I agree with Phil.

Most everyone on here (boy that's gonna tick some people off :)) that are offering training advice are offering bad advice.

Bottom line, you can't train a dog via long distane. The OP's statement of aggression may not even be correct.

The only instance listed so far by the OP is:

"i went down to say hi and open his gate and he growled and snapped at me and I backed off and he put his ears down and started panting."

Sure doesn't sound like aggression. There are also multiple comments of the dog trying to be dominant. There is no anecdotal evidence of dominance from the OP either.

Trying to give advice without understanding the dynamics of what's going on is dangerous. If this dog is defensive, nervy or even just body sensitive trying to put a muzzle on him could be disasterous for the OP. Esp. if they don't know how to fit a muzzle properly.

Uber's comments are predicated by what has worked for her without knowing what this dog's real issues are and what the OP's abilities are to read and react to any dog.

Sting's comments are straight from a book and Sting is dead wrong. People do get hurt far too often from mishandled dogs. Sometimes very seriously. You can read a book. You can not learn to read a dog from a book. You cannot learn to train a dog from a book. Sting's comments about effectively stoping the aggression comes without knowing how ugly it can get. Tom Trainor years ago had a dog tear him up and hospitalize him. That's just one example. I know of many others where individuals didn't listen and got themselves into situations where they were seriously hurt. Junks of tissue missing from their arms. Surgery, rehabilitation and long lasting deficits in motion and strength. It IS a serious issue and not something to be played with by a 6th grader.

Wall to wall counseling isn't going to cut it either. The OP has the right idea. Find this dog the right foster home where he can be correctly evaluated and worked with.

There are plenty of individuals and groups who do this kind of work. The OP just needs to find one (if the breeder is unable/unwilling) to take their dog.

More than my .02.

Matt

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