Bought a Male 7 months old from a reputable breeder on here and he is terrible what can we do - Page 3

I also feel sorry for the puppy But you obviously cannot handle him, you sound to be very inexperienced with this type of dog and what to expect from him so my advice for you would be to return him to his breeder BEFORE YOU OR A MEMBER OF YOU FAMILY ARE INJURED. You have children and most of all you have to protect them.

You have been DUPED big time the breeder is not ethical or he would have asked you more questions before sending you ANY PUPPY  ---------   THIS puppy is not for you  .!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

NEXT TIME DO MORE HOMEWORK FIRST.

A good breeder must take responsibility for properly raising the young dogs in their care, which includes basic socialization and human contact.  Any breeder who just throws a puppy into a pen and leaves it there until it sells is doing a terrible disservice to an intelligent active animal that needs human contact, exercise, proper nutirition, and guidance. 

The problem from I gather - which is admittedly limited - is NOT the fact that the dog is pooping in the house and stealing food on counters but rather the fact that this young dog was never socialized and was relegated to an emaciated state.  Breeder is laughing all the way to the bank to get 800 Euro for a dog in such a state.

This dog should have been sold cheaply as a rescue, with its unfortunate past disclosed.  There is clearly the chance that this dog can be brought around to be conditioned to the family and learn its manners, but this buyer was looking to buy a good pet for the family, not a "charity case". 

Young GSDs must be socialized and receive proper care - that was the responsibility of the "breeder".
Now the owner is stuck cleaning up somebody else's mess. 

I hope the family can save the dog and get a full refund. 

How can you give up so easy it is always easy to give up, i cannot add more than Molly has take your time with him do not try and touch him but spend time in the same room as he is ONLY you no one else for a while, then try and coax him over with a tasty food with a nice smell if he comes over put the food on the floor do not touch him for several days of doing it Talk gently to him and let nature take its colurse he will come round but it will take a week or so ubtil you get his trust Do not be in any hurry, One thing though i hope you do not show or feel any fear when around the Pup for he is nothing but a Pup albeit it a frightned one, just act normal it will be difficult for a while but he will come round through his stomach but go gently with him for a time
Steve1

I have not read all of the lenghty threads so this may have already been said:

Look you have children. I train and love dogs but i will never put my grandchildren in harms way while trying to rehab or train a "wild beast". The children' s emotional and physical well being is much more important than ANY dog.

I personally have sold or returned to breeders some dogs over the years that I deemed dangerous to my family. Could they have been trained or rehabed? Probably so. But it is not worth the chance.

Either, send him back, sell, or donate to a training facility. -PROTECT YOUR FAMILY>

Just my thoughts,
Tuff

If the Pup is crated and just Lynda is with him in the same room when he is let loose no harm can come to the children,
Sit on a stool so you are at the same height as the pup, not towering above it and let the Pup come to you for a treat
Speak in a calm voice but do not touch it just put the treat on the floor in front of you and keep doing it for days several times a day, When the pup settles down offer a treat from the open palm if he takes it go on a few days still without contact,
 When he comes to you with confidence then you can give it a little stroke not before, nothing is impossible and a Pup that age is certainly not beyond bringing it into a social good life but steady away it will take a few weeks, Patience and more Patience is needed, but it can be done
Steve1

Hi Lynda,

 So sorry to hear your dog came with a bundle of problems.

  I am a breeder, and do take dogs back, no problem, and they are rehomed, that is if they have no issues.

  I had a dog returned to me at 7 months old, the people were getting a divorce.

  Well, after having him back a few days, I took some pictures so I could advertise him and find a new home for him. 
 I eventually found out he was scared to death of my husband and any man for that matter, I knew the previous man that owned him had a drinking problem, so who knows what he did to the dog.
  Anyway, he would run & hide from my husband, and shake and pee behind the couch.
 Having bred the dog, I knew his temperament was fine when he left here, and all his relatives were nice stable dogs, so I decided to keep him, and in the days ahead, I socialized him, or should I say-over-socialized him, I got strangers to feed him, I went to a very crowded fair and stayed about 5 hours, had him meet & greet everyone, and they all fed him.

 While now he is 4 years old and has earned his Canine good citizen, Companion Dog title, Herding Instinct Certificate and has his Temperament Test certificate, and is a certified therapy dog with therapy dogs international!
 
I think the sheep herding we did gave him alot of confidence, he started that at 1 year old.
   I thought I had a broken dog, but I don't think that anymore.

   I have just joined a schutzhund club, can't wait to get to work with him,

    His name is Theo Von Ryan

  Don't give up on your dog, work with him to overcome his anxiety, it's alot more challenging than just complaining & giving up

    Good Luck,
            Paula

If it took this person  5 hours to get this  pup out of the van to his house..I don't believe he or anyone in his family has any need to go any further.

Dangerous situation

Breeder needs to be reported immediatly and I bet he will come get his pup with money in hand..But in your country, AN  in humane treatment may not be reportable . I do not know...Any pup that has that veloscity of teeth and growl and holding you at bay is not a dog to be messed with by someone who is not a trainer of this kind of dog and who in the world wants a dog like that...

Call the breeder and demand he send the van courier back and with your money and tell him his name is all over the database and you intend to take him to the Justice....or whatever you call your court system...not a healthy situation for anyone...

I can read between the lines...this is not PUPPY  behavour at NORM>>>>> wHO DID YOU SAY THIS BREEDER WAS?

YR

I agree with what Molly and some others  said. Try and get your money back or at least some of it because the pup was not what you had been lead to expect, but  keep the pup,  and slowly let him know that he is safe with you. We  did thst with out rescue and she is a wonderful dog.  It make take a lot of time and patience but in the end these dogs often become our "heart" dogs, give way more than we give them

I am still very upset for Jazz   this morning we have managed to get near him, however hes is very thin and his nose is very very dry,  underneath by his front legs and hind legs he is bitten to pieces and is that badly bitten he is bleeding,  i presume these are flea or tick bites and probably because the breeder has never treated him for them,  i need to help him but dont want to give him the wrong type of stuff with the wounds being open,  i cant get him to the vet as he wont go near the car,  is there anything any one can recommend that we can either spray on him or give to him to kill what ever is crawling all over him and biting him,  i have tried looking through his coat but as its so thick its hard to see and because he wont let u look for long its a very difficult situation, but he needs help asap, to stop the bites,  

Obviously once we have earned his trust and we can get him on a collar and lead i can get a vet to give him an over all check and any treatment he may need but at the moment that would only stress him even more.

So any help anyone would be much appreciate, he is calming down and eating now, but he is in such a state, im sure a dog from a rescue centre would not have been in such a mess

We are keeping him no way is he going back to the life he had , he needs love and care and he is going to get it, we are spending lots of time with him and i pray he will come back to good health very soon i will speak with a vet tomorrow and get him the attention he so needs