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by beetree on 05 October 2012 - 11:10
Stop following my posts, why don't you Preston, follow your own advice? If you don't like what I post, move along. No one said post to this thread, only a crazy idea must have led you here.
by beetree on 05 October 2012 - 15:10
Truth is always welcome isn't it?
Today if one looks there are 40 threads showing on page one of the OT forum of a dog board.
11 different members have authored 1 Topic.
3 different members have authored 3 Topics.
1 member has authored 7 Topics.
1 member has authored 13 Topics.
Today if one looks there are 40 threads showing on page one of the OT forum of a dog board.
11 different members have authored 1 Topic.
3 different members have authored 3 Topics.
1 member has authored 7 Topics.
1 member has authored 13 Topics.
by Preston on 05 October 2012 - 16:10
Bee, you have been making personal attacks, apparently because you are a control freak and cannot accept different ideas. Now for some history, you have bullied folks off and on on this site for years. Perhaps you might want to ask yourself why you think this is an acceptable role for yourself. So what if I or others have authored numerous topics. You are not the site administrator or the owner, both of which are by the way quite fair and do a very good job. Oli is a software genius that has worked very hard to create an unmatchable website celebrating the GSD breed and giving folks an unrivalled opportunity to share GSD ideas and knowledge. The offtopic section was set up because topic shifted and p*ssing matches and petty jealousies and control issues ensued. Because Oli believes in freedom speech and a free exchange of ideas, he decided to set up an offtopic section to make the site for effective. The site administrator has done a great job running things along with Oli. If they think I am posting too much or have changes they want me to make, they will PM me and I will comply because I respecvt their judgement. Unfortunately, I cannot respect yours based on your control freak behavior and narrowmindedness. Good day.
by beetree on 05 October 2012 - 16:10
I guess only you get an opinion, even on my thread. I think you should stop trying to bully me out of my opinion. Now I will give you one concession. I will apologize for suggesting I was qualified to make a diagnoses of dementia. I am not. For that I offer my sincere apologies. I should have said "dementia-like". Now, take your own advice, don't bully me on my own thread, and if you don't like something about what I post on the boards and think I violated TOS, I encourage you to hit the abuse button on me, and I'm sure the admins on this site will have no problem doing the right thing.
by Preston on 05 October 2012 - 19:10
Sure, how about you stop making labels and derogatory accusations? I have no need to complain to the Administrator who already works hard enough managing this site. And actually, to label me as having dementia is rediculous. It is about as statistically likely as you being a pedophile or a drug dealer. Any normal person reading my posts and yours would see no indications of any such tendencies either way and such accusations to be absurd.
A more reasonable criticism of my posts would be based on the question: why do I seem to be so concerned with corruption and the demise of our Republic? Obviously these subjects are disturbing at face vale for many (folks who can't handle this should not read these posts).
My answer is that I love America and sincerely believe that our great Republic has been hijacked by foreign banksters who are not setting up a large unified trojan horse police state mechanism, a new american gestapo, homeland security, and despite the many good folks have been pulled in to this new organization and its many local tenacles, it's overall purpose is to destroy the Republic and convert America into a snitch state where neighbors are turned against each other and community bonds are broken down.
This breakdown of social trust (the social contract) is done by the new homeland security ethos "if you see something say something" and constant reminders there can be a terrorist just around every corner (when their are none, with the only terrorists those that run homeland security and use our military to start undeclared, unprovoked, unConstitutional foreign wars). Homeland security doesn't want you to have any sense of community or to get to know or trust your neighbors or organize in your communities, it wants you to live in fear and trust "big sis" only. By the way big sis is now being sued for promoting for perversions in the office by another high command hs official and this case is no joke.
Now, if I was the only expert on society to be blowing the whistle that might be an indicator of wrong perception. However, numerous others as well as some active top military and intel experts as well as many retired alphabets, top generals and intel are now speaking out about these very same things I am. America is now under seige and many folks are asleep at the wheel. The first stage of taking our Republic back is to increase public awareness. Speaking out isn't fun and many of us have experienced threats and more. However, all real Americans need to speak out now and take a stand if this creeping tyranny is to be stopped. There is a creeping tyranny at work and a general breakdown in community norms, morality, family and ethics. This effects the police too who have become increasing brutal for a myriad of complex reasons, many due to societal trends and the generalized erosion of community bonds. The use of video recordings has increased public awareness substantially of police corruption. Some depts are trying to outlaw videotaping and photography by the public, but so far corts have ruled it is constitutional and legal. Note: the following article documents police brutality from video cameras and contains violent content so use discretion:
http://www.thiscantbehappening.net/node/1363
A more reasonable criticism of my posts would be based on the question: why do I seem to be so concerned with corruption and the demise of our Republic? Obviously these subjects are disturbing at face vale for many (folks who can't handle this should not read these posts).
My answer is that I love America and sincerely believe that our great Republic has been hijacked by foreign banksters who are not setting up a large unified trojan horse police state mechanism, a new american gestapo, homeland security, and despite the many good folks have been pulled in to this new organization and its many local tenacles, it's overall purpose is to destroy the Republic and convert America into a snitch state where neighbors are turned against each other and community bonds are broken down.
This breakdown of social trust (the social contract) is done by the new homeland security ethos "if you see something say something" and constant reminders there can be a terrorist just around every corner (when their are none, with the only terrorists those that run homeland security and use our military to start undeclared, unprovoked, unConstitutional foreign wars). Homeland security doesn't want you to have any sense of community or to get to know or trust your neighbors or organize in your communities, it wants you to live in fear and trust "big sis" only. By the way big sis is now being sued for promoting for perversions in the office by another high command hs official and this case is no joke.
Now, if I was the only expert on society to be blowing the whistle that might be an indicator of wrong perception. However, numerous others as well as some active top military and intel experts as well as many retired alphabets, top generals and intel are now speaking out about these very same things I am. America is now under seige and many folks are asleep at the wheel. The first stage of taking our Republic back is to increase public awareness. Speaking out isn't fun and many of us have experienced threats and more. However, all real Americans need to speak out now and take a stand if this creeping tyranny is to be stopped. There is a creeping tyranny at work and a general breakdown in community norms, morality, family and ethics. This effects the police too who have become increasing brutal for a myriad of complex reasons, many due to societal trends and the generalized erosion of community bonds. The use of video recordings has increased public awareness substantially of police corruption. Some depts are trying to outlaw videotaping and photography by the public, but so far corts have ruled it is constitutional and legal. Note: the following article documents police brutality from video cameras and contains violent content so use discretion:
http://www.thiscantbehappening.net/node/1363
by beetree on 05 October 2012 - 19:10
Preston, do you believe in alien abductions?

by ggturner on 05 October 2012 - 23:10
“If the person you are talking to doesn't appear to be listening, be patient. It may simply be that he has a small piece of fluff in his ear.”
― A.A. Milne, Winnie-the-Pooh
― A.A. Milne, Winnie-the-Pooh
by Preston on 06 October 2012 - 00:10
Bee, I have no knowledge of them or relationships with any who have claimed to have been abducted. So at this point in time I have no belief about such a subject either way.
I'll tell you one thing I do believe is happening now and I will provide some documentation. The information below is only for alphabets, hs staff and police officers in big cities. Some reading this should have a real good belly laugh. Oh how funny this is going to be. Ha, ha, ha.
This information is a heads up for any police officers working in major urban or nearby suburban depts. It involves new internal homeland security policies which are actually quite draconian. Homeland security is experiencing a serious identity crises. It has been completely infiltrated by a foreign intel service and is as leaky as a dripping faucet on the inside. Senior staff are in a panic as are those certain senators in congress that pushed so hard for this centralized stasi type program in the first place (that's why they hired former stasi director Marcus Wolfe two years before he died as a consultant to set up homeland security, the new american gestapo). There are so many leaks of confidential memos , internal emails and supposedly scrambled communiques that highly sensitive, major internal procedures are now being implemented to supposedly correct these leaks. these draconian stasi measures and the new snitch culture behind it will likley affect many police offers and hs staff at all levels. From here on out all police of major urban and surrounding areas and members of the "federal family" (i.e. alphabets) are to be considered "potential leakers" and "potential domestic terrorists" or "sympathizers and will spied on 24/7 with draconuian hair raising measures. Many mistakes will be made and "innocent" officers will probably suffer.
Sensitive measures are now being implemented which involve random warrantless, unannounced "sneak and peak" home searches after suitable perimeters are established andd the targets are suitably accounted for off premises. Very sophisticated spyware, spybots, keyloggers and backdoors will be rountinely installed and numerous bugs with "burst uptake transmitters" will be installed in these areas for almost every single person at one time or another. HO memebrs, alphabets and police will no longer be trusted any further than an arms length. They will be surveilled much more intensely than even returning vets who are now at the top of the suspect list. Every single phone conversation will be scanned with echelon type software and recorded in full at the local fusion centers by specialized teams. All associations day or not will be tracked, scanned, logged and process by complex algorithyms and multiple regrression analysis. All travel will be tracked, no one is to ever be fully trusted again. This is going to be the east german stasi on steroids when fully implemented.
What these wizards at the top do not realize (these soulless social engineers) is that there will be pushback that continues and even increases geometrically. Leaks will increase dramatically as they convert this to a snitch system. Brown nosers and snitches will be highhhly rewarded and instantly promoted (just like it was in east germany under the stasi terror reign). Of course under int'l JTF arrangements, foreign nato and other troops may be brought in to assist and will perhaps be more willing to do the really nasty dirty work good Americans would never do. Those affilitated or working anywhere in homeland security will be spied upon 10X more than anyone else in society, and knowledge of this itsself has already been leaked. Of course this alone will produce more pushback. Many giood police and alphanbets will find themselves getting set up and wrongly persecuted, just like in east germany (this is all available in the history books). The recent two year congressional report just issued is a strong and negative indictment of homeland security's waste and fraud, and when you add operation fast and furious to this, the cost to society in taxpayer money and suffering is horrendous. Plus this new centralized nazi/stasi ideology breeds increased unnecessary and illegal police violence toward citizens. It is obvious to anyone that studies this, it is a total lose/lose situation for everybody except for those at the top who are working hard to destroy America, the Republic.
http://www.infowars.com/congress-presses-tsa-to-crack-down-on-insider-threats-from-its-own-employees/
http://www.rightsidenews.com/2012080716809/us/homeland-security/senate-anti-leaks-bill-threatens-the-rights-of-the-press-and-the-public.html
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/07/30/top-republican-warns-security-leaks-havent-stopped-despite-controversy/
http://dissenter.firedoglake.com/2012/08/09/former-homeland-security-analyst-describes-being-retaliated-against-for-work-on-white-supremacist-terrorism/
I'll tell you one thing I do believe is happening now and I will provide some documentation. The information below is only for alphabets, hs staff and police officers in big cities. Some reading this should have a real good belly laugh. Oh how funny this is going to be. Ha, ha, ha.
This information is a heads up for any police officers working in major urban or nearby suburban depts. It involves new internal homeland security policies which are actually quite draconian. Homeland security is experiencing a serious identity crises. It has been completely infiltrated by a foreign intel service and is as leaky as a dripping faucet on the inside. Senior staff are in a panic as are those certain senators in congress that pushed so hard for this centralized stasi type program in the first place (that's why they hired former stasi director Marcus Wolfe two years before he died as a consultant to set up homeland security, the new american gestapo). There are so many leaks of confidential memos , internal emails and supposedly scrambled communiques that highly sensitive, major internal procedures are now being implemented to supposedly correct these leaks. these draconian stasi measures and the new snitch culture behind it will likley affect many police offers and hs staff at all levels. From here on out all police of major urban and surrounding areas and members of the "federal family" (i.e. alphabets) are to be considered "potential leakers" and "potential domestic terrorists" or "sympathizers and will spied on 24/7 with draconuian hair raising measures. Many mistakes will be made and "innocent" officers will probably suffer.
Sensitive measures are now being implemented which involve random warrantless, unannounced "sneak and peak" home searches after suitable perimeters are established andd the targets are suitably accounted for off premises. Very sophisticated spyware, spybots, keyloggers and backdoors will be rountinely installed and numerous bugs with "burst uptake transmitters" will be installed in these areas for almost every single person at one time or another. HO memebrs, alphabets and police will no longer be trusted any further than an arms length. They will be surveilled much more intensely than even returning vets who are now at the top of the suspect list. Every single phone conversation will be scanned with echelon type software and recorded in full at the local fusion centers by specialized teams. All associations day or not will be tracked, scanned, logged and process by complex algorithyms and multiple regrression analysis. All travel will be tracked, no one is to ever be fully trusted again. This is going to be the east german stasi on steroids when fully implemented.
What these wizards at the top do not realize (these soulless social engineers) is that there will be pushback that continues and even increases geometrically. Leaks will increase dramatically as they convert this to a snitch system. Brown nosers and snitches will be highhhly rewarded and instantly promoted (just like it was in east germany under the stasi terror reign). Of course under int'l JTF arrangements, foreign nato and other troops may be brought in to assist and will perhaps be more willing to do the really nasty dirty work good Americans would never do. Those affilitated or working anywhere in homeland security will be spied upon 10X more than anyone else in society, and knowledge of this itsself has already been leaked. Of course this alone will produce more pushback. Many giood police and alphanbets will find themselves getting set up and wrongly persecuted, just like in east germany (this is all available in the history books). The recent two year congressional report just issued is a strong and negative indictment of homeland security's waste and fraud, and when you add operation fast and furious to this, the cost to society in taxpayer money and suffering is horrendous. Plus this new centralized nazi/stasi ideology breeds increased unnecessary and illegal police violence toward citizens. It is obvious to anyone that studies this, it is a total lose/lose situation for everybody except for those at the top who are working hard to destroy America, the Republic.
http://www.infowars.com/congress-presses-tsa-to-crack-down-on-insider-threats-from-its-own-employees/
http://www.rightsidenews.com/2012080716809/us/homeland-security/senate-anti-leaks-bill-threatens-the-rights-of-the-press-and-the-public.html
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/07/30/top-republican-warns-security-leaks-havent-stopped-despite-controversy/
http://dissenter.firedoglake.com/2012/08/09/former-homeland-security-analyst-describes-being-retaliated-against-for-work-on-white-supremacist-terrorism/

by Slamdunc on 06 October 2012 - 04:10
Beetree,
If you were walking down the street in Manhattan and saw a person ranting and raving completely ridiculous drivel and by there actions and statements you believe they were suffering from some form of mental illness would you stop and argue with them? Would you try to engage them in a serious conversation?
Once, you realize that you do not have the means or ability to treat this person's illness and engaging him in dialogue only exasperates his condition you will learn to ignore him for his own good.
Of course, you wouldn't try and have a serious conversation with the unstable person on the street why do it here of all places?
If you were walking down the street in Manhattan and saw a person ranting and raving completely ridiculous drivel and by there actions and statements you believe they were suffering from some form of mental illness would you stop and argue with them? Would you try to engage them in a serious conversation?
Once, you realize that you do not have the means or ability to treat this person's illness and engaging him in dialogue only exasperates his condition you will learn to ignore him for his own good.
Of course, you wouldn't try and have a serious conversation with the unstable person on the street why do it here of all places?
by Preston on 06 October 2012 - 05:10
Here's another good laugh for you. Coarse this story is mainstream news too. Looks like all the stories about out of control police in NY since 911 might be based on reality. Yes, this is just normal everyday police behavior in most large American cities and something to be proud of. It has nothing to do with the militarization of the police since 911 or homeland security.
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/10/05/nyregion/police-stop-and-fatally-shoot-unarmed-driver-on-a-parkway-in-queens.html?_r=4&hp
Obviously this incident is murder, but you can bet the officer/shooter will avoid any repurcussions. Unlikely for a civil action to succeed in NYC for obvious reasons because of the usual deep corruption that exists in the legal system there at every level, much like chitown.
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/10/05/nyregion/police-stop-and-fatally-shoot-unarmed-driver-on-a-parkway-in-queens.html?_r=4&hp
Obviously this incident is murder, but you can bet the officer/shooter will avoid any repurcussions. Unlikely for a civil action to succeed in NYC for obvious reasons because of the usual deep corruption that exists in the legal system there at every level, much like chitown.
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