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Krazy Bout K9s

by Krazy Bout K9s on 17 September 2012 - 19:09

Check out her facebook page when you click on her name at the Indiegogo site..suprised there is no info about where she is from or a photo??? Looks like she is a digital design artist. Some updates on the dog there.

djc

by djc on 17 September 2012 - 20:09

I had to pay $1,100 one way for shipping a female to Germany, from a pet shipper.... then I had to pay an additional 1,000 to have the dog brought through customs in Germany. This is as cargo and not going along with. The return trip was about the same minus the customs.
One big thing here is that England has all kind of hoops you have to jump through before taking/sending an animal there. I think it stemmed from the hoof/mouth thing they had years ago. They have just recently lifted a total embargo on all animals, even if it was just a stop over with a different destination. I've had to be careful booking non direct flights, in the past, so as to stay out of England. I don't know all the particulars now, but I'm sure it is still a nightmare to navigate even today.
The other thing is, is if the dog is truly oversized and needs a giant crate, then things go up really fast. I do know that Gradlyn has male German Shepherd crates custom made so as to avoid having to move up to the expenses of a giant crate. Once you get into Europe most of the airlines will only do animals through Gradlyn or PetAir (not sure of the exact name?). In the USA you can deal directly with the airline, with the exception of Lufthansa who only uses Gradlyn. Last I checked Lufthansa's/Gradlyn price for coming with the dog was in excess of $400. I'm sure it's gone up. The US airlines, I think, are trying to follow suit on price, whereas they used to be about 1/2 of what Lufthansa's price was. BUT even now in the US, United/Continental now ONLY ships pets as cargo and have doubled the price from $250 per flight to now over $400 per flight. (not round trip) AA still lets pets go as cargo, but has a 100lb total limit AND many of their jets are now downsized and will only take a 400 crate.
NOW... with all that being said, I still find it hard to believe that it's $4,000???!!! But I guess not impossible due to the oversize and the cat shipping too.
Debby

Krazy Bout K9s

by Krazy Bout K9s on 17 September 2012 - 21:09

I think they are trying to ship OUT of England...back to the US...that is easier, from what I checked into last fall, trying to get a dog to England.

Keith Grossman

by Keith Grossman on 17 September 2012 - 23:09

Correct, Krazy; shipping into England is much more difficult and typically includes a sometimes long quarantine period.  There is no such requirement when shipping from Europe into the U.S., typically a clear health certificate from a vet and a statement that the dog is up to date with whatever shots are age appropriate.  Something about this simply doesn't pass the smell test.  I would love to be proven wrong but am absolutely over people using empathy for our troops as a way to benefit themselves financially.  I will gladly eat crow if someone can prove that this is legitimate and then we can all help her bring her dog home for far less than the $4,000.00 she claims it will cost rather than throwing money into a hole unnecessarily for a dog that may or may not exist.

by panther on 18 September 2012 - 00:09

Everything is a lie, another try to ripp people off pushing on best qualities of good people

I posted there ( http://www.indiegogo.com/forRio?c=comments) a comment with advice how to bring the dog for $1,100 maximum and the cat for $100 using help of Gradlyn Kennels and United, Luftgansa, Delta or British Airway, and this is a quote for regular citizens, I know for fact named above airlines give a lot of priveledges to military families.
I also gave an advice (since she was talking there about the dog saving her during epilepcy episode...) to get a RX from her Dr and bring dog on board as a service dog, for free

An hour later my comment was removed!

What does it tell you? Clear case of fraud

by jra on 18 September 2012 - 00:09

There is no requirement (that I'm aware of unless something has changed very recently) for pets of military families to fly *with* them on the same airline/airplane.  Sure, it would be convenient, but it's not required.  I haven't done an international move with pets, but we recently PCSed and sent our pets ahead of us by a couple of days using Continental (United) Cargo shipping.  It was definitely more than flying them as 'checked baggage', but a small price to pay, relatively speaking.

We did have to put the GSD in the giant size crate (48x32x35) because of her ears, but even with that it was pretty easy for the reservations personnel to find the flight(s) to accommodate the crate.  Obviously, if the dog is too big for the giant (700), that could pose a problem, but surely there's a workaround (?).  My pets flew from HI to TX and with one 700, one 500, and the smallest crate for the cat (who happens to be a Maine Coon, also), we paid nowhere near $4000.  Additionally, because sending them ahead opens up an issue of what to do with them when they arrive, we checked into a boarding facility that would have picked them up from the airport and taken care of everything, boarding them until we arrived.  We had family tend to them, so it wasn't necessary to use that service, but I wanted all bases covered.  The boarding facility offered a military rate for these services, so that would have been a little help on the financial end.  Coordinating our move took a lot of phone calls and internet time on my part, but it was far less expensive than a pet relocation service.

Granted there are plenty of details I don't know about this situation, but it does seem pretty pricey and a bit odd to me that they would be *required* to use a pet relocation service.




Keith Grossman

by Keith Grossman on 18 September 2012 - 01:09

"An hour later my comment was removed!"

And there you have it.

momosgarage

by momosgarage on 18 September 2012 - 15:09

I'm convinced now that it is a scam or at the very least someone who is very stubborn and unwilling to investigate thier options, trying to get more money than they need or deserve.  Either way deleting panthers comment about how to lower cost, shows ill intent. 





 


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