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by macrowe1 on 13 September 2012 - 02:09

Tala is my first sable. When she was first born she was dark dark, a lot like Euroshepherd was saying, that she looked like a black. Then when I got her at 8 weeks she was still really dark. Now at 4 months she's a lot lighter. Some of the lighter sables in the litter are getting darker.The breeder says that she'll get darker when she gets older.

by macrowe1 on 13 September 2012 - 02:09

Tala 4 weeks

by Hundmutter on 13 September 2012 - 02:09

Please someone correct me if I am wrong ? I asked the same question, why no sable
to sable matings, and researched it a little - but all I could come up with at the time
was rather woolly 'because folks believe its a genetically weak combination and may
lead to health or temperament problems (never specified); or because you get more
neonatal deaths / fading puppies with sable to sable.' There did seem to be a small
amount of statistical information to bear this second point out; but some experts
were already starting to query those beliefs.

by macrowe1 on 13 September 2012 - 02:09

Tala 4 months

by macrowe1 on 13 September 2012 - 02:09

Hundmutter I've never heard that. I could be wrong, too. But I know several litters, including my pup's litter, that are sable to sable breedings that have produced excellent healthy pups. The fading I don't know, but I've seen previous litters similar to my pup who are sable to sable who aren't faded at all.

by Betta Wolf on 13 September 2012 - 03:09

my bitch is a sable, but she's not a long hair

by amysavesjacks on 13 September 2012 - 03:09

I was curious because my breeding is sable to sable... I had never read that before. Anyone else have any input on that?

by amysavesjacks on 13 September 2012 - 03:09

macrowe1... your baby is gorgeous. You think she will keep that rich red? I love red sables.

by vonissk on 13 September 2012 - 05:09

I don't believe sable to sable makes them any weaker or any more faded pigment then any other color. The reason I don't like breeding sable to sable--and this is a personal thing--is the sables that are produced can carry the gene that only produces sable--I can't spell it but I call it Homo Z................My boy is from a sable to sable breeding and he carries that gene--he is also very healthy and has nice pigment. He will be 8 in December and isn't even beginning to slow down.

by Hundmutter on 13 September 2012 - 13:09

There seem to have been many, many successful breedings of two sables by now;
mostly on your side of the Pond and mostly among the Working community. So
I guess that if there were real problems connected with doing it, these would have
emerged. Maybe this reluctance was simply old-fashioned, based on hearsay
rather than anything empirical. (I have an idea I read that Dr Willis did not think
there was a real reason not to mate sable to sable; I must look that reference up!)
Its a different world now, with faster communications, so although I set a lot of
store by much of the established advice & thinking, I also appreciate that some
things change as knowledge grows ...

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