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by joanro on 13 July 2012 - 17:07

Fawn, my opine on that is the pups need to develop their Own identity. In other words, not have another dog always making the first move, making the decisions, being a crutch so to speak. They need to learn to stand on their own without momma being the buffer. At what age would some one of Bob's knowledge consider appropriate to separate. I'm not suggesting they never be with the role model dog. It would be interesting to see pos/neg of pups raised in family without mom (new home) and pups held back and raised with mom. Maybe you can do that?

fawndallas

by fawndallas on 13 July 2012 - 17:07

Good thought.  Maybe I am overcoming the dependency, we will see.

Puppies are trained 2 - 3 times a day one on one.  No other dog/ mom.  These sessions last about 10 - 15 min.

All outside from home socialization/distraction training is also one on one.  I tried bring mom along once about 2 weeks ago; BIG mistake.  Too much confusion and nothing gained.  I figure, once the basic obedience is down to at least 85% success rate, then I will start the distraction training with more than one at a time.

All other training, Rose is around.  Part of this is training for her too.  She is learning to stay out of it when I am working with the pup too.

by Bob McKown on 13 July 2012 - 18:07


 "Bob,s knowledge" Your not getting much there!

  Normally when there able to climb out of the whelping box( just my experience) mom takes longer breaks with out them. And when she is weaning them I seperate them so there not together 24 7 I just watch and they will tell you when it,s time.


 Cruise is 15 months now and I let him out with Holly. When he is with Fiest he is pushy and bossy and I have to keep a close eye on them both. When he is out with his mother she still lets him know not to invade her space and he listens. All puppies and dogs are different you learn more each time you welp a litter.    

fawndallas

by fawndallas on 13 July 2012 - 19:07

IT WORKED!   I had another puppy in for some training and toe nail clipping.  He was a bit unruly during the clipping.  I finally did the same as mom, by closing my hand over his mouth and muzzle and forcing head to ground.  After about 3 times of doing this, he calmed down and allowed me to finish the clipping.

As they say in science though, "everything is a guess until you can repeat it at least 3 times."  We will see.

yellowrose of Texas

by yellowrose of Texas on 14 July 2012 - 04:07

Fawn:

Doing good it sounds like..YOU learn fast.

MY only comment is same as Joanro....
 I always keep all pups seperate most of days...I interact daily with each one with mom and then serpeate.

 If you do not , the gsd bonds with his mom...and then will not be  FOCUSED on you the trainer or alpa owner.

  Moms have their place yes..but I do not leave any pup growing up in any kennel with mom ..Dads never get the priviledge.. MY grouches do not like puppies.
 When the pup I keep grows up , like in picture below, I let them play. Then they are already imprinted and have no fear of Mom..  Abby is tugging with Drakius, her 8 month old male son.


 YR





 


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