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by mollyandjack on 26 June 2012 - 16:06
I've seen the same thing. My friend's Great Pyrenees and my parent's soft coated wheaten were both neutered early and they both mark.
by KellyJ on 26 June 2012 - 16:06
Who suggested that you should spay/neuter your dogs by four months?
by djc on 26 June 2012 - 16:06
Here are some articles that spell out the pros and cons and also bring in the additional health risks of doing it too early
http://www.naiaonline.org/pdfs/LongTermHealthEffectsOfSpayNeuterInDogs.pdf
http://www.caninesports.com/SpayNeuter.html
http://www.2ndchance.info/spayneuter.htm
There are others, all you have to do is google it and you will see it's wide spread knowledge. While they differ on a few things the consensus seems to be the same on early spay and neuter.
Debby
http://www.naiaonline.org/pdfs/LongTermHealthEffectsOfSpayNeuterInDogs.pdf
http://www.caninesports.com/SpayNeuter.html
http://www.2ndchance.info/spayneuter.htm
There are others, all you have to do is google it and you will see it's wide spread knowledge. While they differ on a few things the consensus seems to be the same on early spay and neuter.
Debby
by firefly on 26 June 2012 - 17:06
Dog needs his hormones to develop fully. Just like a human teen goes through puberty. IMO spay or neuter before the animal is matuered is animal cruelty.
by minro on 26 June 2012 - 17:06
I've seen it quite a bit. Especially in males. People that neuter too early have dogs that are forever stuck in the gangly-coyote phase haha. One of my males is just a bit over two, and I am just now looking into neutering him.
by Rass on 26 June 2012 - 18:06
I will never spay a dog without letting her go through one heat. I had to have an episioplasty surgery done on a dog with a juvenile vulva that was recessed.. that letting her have a single heat would have prevented.
I will hesitate to neuter a male.. maybe at all. Doesn't mean you will breed them or that they will mark (leaving a male intact). Years ago people would buy male dogs for pets because they did not have to spend the money on altering them.. and they did not let them breed.
OTOH if you think the dog will end up in an irresponsible situation, then spay/neuter young to prevent unwanted puppies.
I will hesitate to neuter a male.. maybe at all. Doesn't mean you will breed them or that they will mark (leaving a male intact). Years ago people would buy male dogs for pets because they did not have to spend the money on altering them.. and they did not let them breed.
OTOH if you think the dog will end up in an irresponsible situation, then spay/neuter young to prevent unwanted puppies.
by fawndallas on 26 June 2012 - 19:06
This is great. Thank you everyone for the information. I will sit tight on getting my male fixed.
Now about the 2 females. One of my vets and many of the rescue agencies I work with all "recommend" getting them fixed before the 1st heat. They say something about cancer preventive and that even 1 heat can increase the risk of cancer. What is your input on this?
Other than Rose (who is scheduled to be fixed this summer), any other females I have had, I got through rescue and they were already fixed.
Now about the 2 females. One of my vets and many of the rescue agencies I work with all "recommend" getting them fixed before the 1st heat. They say something about cancer preventive and that even 1 heat can increase the risk of cancer. What is your input on this?
Other than Rose (who is scheduled to be fixed this summer), any other females I have had, I got through rescue and they were already fixed.
by kitkat3478 on 26 June 2012 - 19:06
The vets recomend it to put money in their pockets, and the rescues do it to prevent more dogs in the shelters.
I myself would NOT neuter at all and spay ONLY after dog is mature. If the only side effect were "snipey, undeveloped" dogs I would not do it early. I have done a lot of reading on this, and think at least one year, and than ???
by KellyJ on 26 June 2012 - 19:06
I am very glad you decided to hold off on neutering your male.
"They say something about cancer preventive and that even 1 heat can increase the risk of cancer. What is your input on this?"
Spay and neuter may minimize the effects of some cancers, (usually the ones geared to those organs) however it greatly increases the risks of others.
http://www.mmilani.com/commentary-200509.html
If it were up to most vets, all of our dogs would be altered overweight coach potatos...
"They say something about cancer preventive and that even 1 heat can increase the risk of cancer. What is your input on this?"
Spay and neuter may minimize the effects of some cancers, (usually the ones geared to those organs) however it greatly increases the risks of others.
http://www.mmilani.com/commentary-200509.html
If it were up to most vets, all of our dogs would be altered overweight coach potatos...
by fawndallas on 26 June 2012 - 19:06
Thank you all. I will take all of this into consideration. The articles are especially helpful (they gave weight to my sneeky suspicion, but nothing to support).
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