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by Jenni78 on 24 June 2012 - 16:06
Good grief. That's terrible. Good for him that he was lucky enough to have someone do his surgery. How could YOU have caused that by 14 weeks??? That makes no sense. This seems to be one of those cases of true genetic HD. I mean, HD is always genetic, but there are other things that cause joint deformities besides genetics, and they all get lumped in as "HD".
I have a dog who is like a rubberband. People have suggested she's dysplastic, but quite the contrary...her pups who also are like Gumby are also xrayed clear. Better joints allow for more flexibility. That early pic doesn't mean anything in and of itself. Obviously you were likely seeing something hinting at this, but that picture by itself is no big deal, nothing you should've known.
I have a dog who is like a rubberband. People have suggested she's dysplastic, but quite the contrary...her pups who also are like Gumby are also xrayed clear. Better joints allow for more flexibility. That early pic doesn't mean anything in and of itself. Obviously you were likely seeing something hinting at this, but that picture by itself is no big deal, nothing you should've known.

by MightyZeus on 24 June 2012 - 16:06

Saw this on a Facebook GSD Fanpage. Same position as your pup. Therefore I agree that this position doesn't always mean a dog has HD.
by Tihannah on 24 June 2012 - 16:06
Though limited, he's doing quite well now, and I am happy that he is no longer in pain. I was just curious on whether or not since his issues began so early on, if his breeder should've seen these signs before selling him to me.
by Hutchins on 24 June 2012 - 17:06
Good Lord, if one of our puppies showed signs like that at that young age, I never would have let him leave us until I could have gotten him xrayed by our vet. What a shame for you, as I know how hard it is NOT to fall in love with such an adorable pup. If one pup out of the litter is doing that, it would definitely catch my attention. Now if more than one was doing it, I would definitely big in panic mode. Thats just me. Just curious to know, has any other pups from that litter been xrayed and what is their results?
by Tihannah on 24 June 2012 - 18:06
I don't know. There was only one other pup in the litter and the breeder would never give any other information. I asked once if she would pass on my contact information to the other owner in case they wanted to keep contact and share updates on our pups prior to all this, and the breeder told me if I wanted updates I could just keep checking their testimonials page. Huh??? My experience has been that this breeder is very guarded.
by Hutchins on 24 June 2012 - 18:06
So sad that we unknowingly get caught up in situations like this. Not sure why the breeder would not want to share information like this that could be detrimental to the breed if either of the puppies were to be bred. As a breeder, I encourage our puppy owners to keep in touch with each other amd share information about their puppies with each other. You would be surprised the experiences and knowledge they can learn from each other. Of course I try to keep in touch with all of them. Have you ever seen anything negative posted on a breeder's updated page? I think not. JMO
by brynjulf on 24 June 2012 - 19:06
To be honest I am never worried about the "frog dog" position. We have lots of dogs who do it here and they have passed OFA.

by Hundmutter on 24 June 2012 - 19:06
The X rays show that the poor little sod had no sockets. I'd been wondering how you'd got such an early diagnosis, but it became obvious as soon as you put up these plates. The pup was lucky you had the right contacts and could remedy the situation. Hope all continues to go well. I still don't think the position in the photo had anything to do with it - as others have said, that isn't diagnostic. IMO he and his sibling should never be bred from; and if the breeder is smart s/he won't
repeat that litter using the same parental combination (at the very least). A 'good' breeder WOULD CARE about this, and what happened to your puppy, not try to lay off the blame. You did not cause this one by incorrect exercise or feeding, of that I am very sure.
repeat that litter using the same parental combination (at the very least). A 'good' breeder WOULD CARE about this, and what happened to your puppy, not try to lay off the blame. You did not cause this one by incorrect exercise or feeding, of that I am very sure.
by vomzellmer on 25 June 2012 - 02:06
Oh my god! I would have some NASTY words for that breeder for even implying that it was possible for any sort of treatment by a buyer causing those hips!!
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