AI from other countries - Page 2

I guess I am confused by the fact that if the stud owner does the DNA stuff and sends off whatever paperwork the AKC wants....sounds like it would work without the SV.  Or?  Not talking about SV papers getting issued....AKC papers, not SV.  Not sure why the SV would need to sign anything for AKC based on what I have read.    

Unless the shipping of the semen would violate rules with the SV breed book for that stud, resulting in that stud getting booted out of the book.  That might be possible....it would make sense if the AKC seems to not really mind that it would be an option, espeically since the pedigree meets the AKC stipulations for being recognized.  Not really worth getting your stud booted.  Hmmm.... 

Last time I registered a litter in whelp, mother was AKC registered, stud was in Czech, AKC required proof of breeding signed off by the owner of the stud and then oked by the countries registry.

Pretty much it is called controlled breeding.

But that was about a year ago,it could have changed.

Oh and Heidi, yes, there could be some consequences for the owned of the stud that I don't think anybody really wants to deal with for one breeding.

Blitzen, the reason it is not allowed is because Europe is small.. kinda.

It is not that hard to take a bitch to the stud, an 8 hour trip is a looooong ways for a European.
It eliminates dogs from breeding who have hard time breed naturally
It eliminates all sorts of fraud.

 

I am curious now.  I will have to do some researching. 

Ok.  So here is another AI situation.  A dog is collected here in the US and then returns.  Dog resided here for a number of years.  What then?  Is that semen that was collected and stored here not usable?  All the paperwork is done dog no longer lives on US soil.  Dog is entered in both studbooks....

That is something you would have to research. I know the AKC would register the litter since the owner of the semen would have given a permission to do so, not the owner of the stud...this is what I am talking about, a lot of disputes can be avoided by not collecting. I would not be happy if I were an owner of a stud and some Joe Shmoe owned 8 straws of his semen and sold it to do some shitty breedings. I don't think that would be something I ever want to deal with.

There is no controlled breeding in the US and it shows!

Imagine, you own a dog, 2 year old you decided to purchase and this dog has been collected by another person... I guess it is not the stud, it is the semen now that has the value.... tvisted especially if you take the dog to WUSV, you dont even have rights to your dog's semen, LOL... wow I can see this go very sour.

I agree.  There are a lot of trash breeders.  The AI does offer an interesting option to collect and store semen for later use on a line that might not be otherwise available at a later date.  In terms of straws, I would think that would be something the two parties would have to work out.  Perhaps it is better for the stud owner to collect and sell straws as they are requested....but then again you have to have a demand for a stud to have frozen semen in storage somewhere.  

I would hate to think like that about people.  But time and time again...craziness is thought up.  I guess that would be a risk with purchasing an adult male.  I would think a live cover is way cheaper than AI depending on travel distance.  Additionally if that type of potential was there I would think that the dog would not be offered for sale in the first place.  You can find crooked people anywhere.      

i think the reason  SV only does natural breedings, is cause if they cant  do natural they should not be breeding at all. and i can see the understanding behind this as i do beleive it to be true. i do also understand the long distance and i think that is the only time  you should do AI. and i dont think SV will change there rules any time soon.