Banned For Life, By Sharon Bowen & Co, For Complaining. - Page 2

Theyre all at it Bob, playing swap shop with tickets to each other a ruddy team of 'em. Dare to challenge them and they and their other cronies gang up to scare you or to get rid of you completely like banning you from their show,  so when it happens again you wont be around to complain and put your £35 down.  Was told sue bellfield had a similar experience recently after she complained to the kc about hooky tickets been given out at a show. at least she had the guts and savvi to tell it as it was. Respect her but wouldnt wanna be her, im one of lifes cowards but that doesnt mean I dont see all whats happening and hear all what loads of others are saying between themselves.   Cheats and bullys is what they are, about time the rest of the gsd show goers stopped being so shit scared and started repeating out loud what they are all saying about them behind their backs.  AS  

to A Shepherd then lets start with you no good telling other people to do it if you wont yourself, we all need to report any bent judging we see the more that do it the less it will go on, and yes i have reported on bent judges, but one or two people doing it wont change anything bob4 i remember reading what you said in the mag, i think you have a strong case of discrimination here may be worth persuing it.
jim h

Bob: What was the precise reason, as expressed by the GSD Club of Wales in their letter to you, for your ban?

Debating your issue on here will definitely NOT solve you problem on this issue, indeed it may be counter-productive to a reaching solution.

noddi whether it is 1 club or a thousand clubs if what bob says is true then that is discrimination and it should never be allowed,he has stated that he has witnesses for his good conduct at the show his complaint was upheld by the KC so why the ban the only reason i can see from what at the moment is a one sided story is DISCRIMINATION.
jim h

Jim,i wasn,t sticking up for the GSD Club of Wales just pointing out that there are other shows for Bob4 to attend.I dont think we,ve met but plenty know that i have a big gob where the breed of gsds are concerned.I would prefer ALL to be honest n open firstly in the health aspects of our breed.That is that breeder SHOULD if they,re are aware that genetic health problems are appearing in their breeding TELL the appropriate breed health coordinators n make it PUBLIC KNOWLEDGE instead of sweeping it under the carpet,then rumours wont start.Some breeders have wanted to make it public but have had the frighteners of being taken to court n sued if it appears in publication.Facey,bent,corrupt judging will continue as its always done.Methinks only the KC can put a stop to it n even then it,ll be hard as one cant prove it in the majority of cases.Carole Spelman,Rheinmeister gsds.

hi  carole yes i know there are other shows, but should the gsd people allow this sort of discrimination i personally dont think so that is why we have so much favour judging and bent judges because we have allowed it, and if people are going to ban you from shows for telling the truth then no one will complain about anything.
jim h

Exactly Jim.Sorry state of affairs.Carole S.

Bob: You are being VERY selective with the TRUTH. 
You should state "The whole TRUTH and nothing but the TRUTH"

I was there at the Wales Show you refer to. My female won Best Bitch & Best of Breed - and NO she did NOT have a Korung.

I was flabbergasted when the Judge made his comments about the first two bitches in, I believe, the Open Bitch Class.

So was Sharon Bowen the Steward and probably everyone else. Sharon did her very best to handle the situation, however the Judge is in full control of his Judging and the rest is history.

However you made your formal complaint to the Kennel Club and it was fully dealt with. The Kennel Club decision being FINAL.

Now tell everyone on her about your behavior towards the Secretary of the GSD Club of Wales? Something which NO breed Club or Canine Club will tolerate. Tell us also about your behavior towards another Committee member of the GSD Club of Wales about 1 month ago at the Heads of the Valley Training day, and what the Chairmen of the HOVGSD Club was required to do?

As far as my investigations have established, YOU HAVE NOT BEEN BANNED FOR LIFE from the GSD Club of Wales Shows. Although you may be heading for that. Your unnecessary personalising on here acertainly wins you very few allies.

I would strongly urge you to reconsider very carefully all of the FACTS surrounding this whole matter.

If you do that, I would again strongly urge you to send a letter of apology to the Secretary of the GSD Club of Wales and to the whole committee. I am absolutely convinced they deserve one from you. My research is usually very thorough, because I am used to people being very selective with the truth and ALL of the facts.

The GSD Club of Wales has EVERY right to refuse entries from anyone for any reason they see fit. It is in their RULES.

My understanding is your entries will be refused, however I would seriously question that you have been banned for life. Guilding the Lilly I think Bob.

If you need to speak to me privately Bob, and I sincerely hope you do, please phone me. Maybe I can help you in this situation. It would be a very good start if you chose not to make any more comments on here Bob, and in your best interests if you genuinely want to resolve this problem.

David Payne

What i have been told that Bob4 wife has also been banned from the GSD Club of Wales shows, sorry but the Club is out of order

I am so glad that I don't own a showline dog anymore!

Just one thing, a little off-topic....

Someone mentioned a dog that was ED clear in one place, but failed in Germany.

The Germans have been accused of this before, especially with Czech working dogs.  They have been accused of down-grading excellent hips and elbows, and one can only wonder why....

Politics, corruption, racism, petty mindedness..... cannot wait for 'GSD, The Movie', should be a cracker!