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by Kalibeck on 14 April 2012 - 15:04

by Emoore on 14 April 2012 - 15:04
All I hear is that working-line GSD breeders should work and title in Schutzhund, and that the DDR dogs are being "dumbed down" to sell big-headed, heavy-boned, pets to people who want the color and the look but don't want to deal with the seriousness and intensity of the the original DDR dogs. Kim looks like a very nice lady with very nice dogs that she does some AKC pet obedience (CGC, Rally, CD) with. From the outside looking in, she *looks* like someone breeding big, dark sable dogs for the pet market. And yet all I hear is good things about her. What gives?
Please please don't take this as bashing because it's not. There are people I like and respect, who have respect for Kim. I'm saying what it looks like from the outside; I'm hoping someone who knows the inside story can tell me.
by Big B Shepherds on 14 April 2012 - 19:04

by yellowrose of Texas on 14 April 2012 - 23:04
NO NO NO gsdguy08...... that horrible UGLY DOG ROOKIE IS MINE...HE IS MY DREAM BOY...I HAVE FIRST DIBS ON HIM...
FIGHTING WORDS .....NO NO NO
I know how to get to Kims real fast so I will take cover for him...
I would buy a pup from KIM in a NEW YORK MINUTE...if she had what I wanted in the match ups..
Give her a chance to speak with you and check out her agenda.
Yr.

by LukasGS on 14 April 2012 - 23:04

by shepherdpal on 15 April 2012 - 04:04
It can be hard to take care of dogs, family and travel hours to club and to shows so not every one can do this.

by Emoore on 15 April 2012 - 16:04
I understand, it's just that this forum, and another forum I'm on, can be quite harsh on breeders who don't title their breeding dogs in protection sports. Obedience and agilty don't generally cut it. But Kim gets a pass and I've always wondered why. No personal judgement on my part, just something I've noticed.
If somebody came onto this forum with a couple of black and dark sable dogs with OFA's and CGCs and the odd CD or two and said they wanted to breed, they'd be "educated" right out of here.

by DDRCzechFan on 15 April 2012 - 17:04
She obviously IS doing something with her dogs if she's getting them CGCs, CDs, etc... and considering she rarely has puppies left over (from what I've gathered from visiting her website) I'd say she's doing something RIGHT.
While YES, it would be NICE if her dogs had some SchH titles, I really don't think it's mine, yours, or anyone else's business WHO she sells her puppies to, if the owners are happy with them, send people her way because they adore their pups so much, and the puppies are healthy and come from healthy stock, what's the reason to question what she does?
I'm not trying to be rude, Emoore, not in the slightest, I guess I just don't see why when she has so many positive reviews, her puppies sell like hot cakes and are pleasing her clients why splitting hairs over SchH titles is really called for.

by Emoore on 15 April 2012 - 17:04
Because that's what this forum does. :)
I have no dog in this fight; I'm not in the market for a puppy. I like the looks of her dogs and several people that I respect, respect her. My comment is more about the forum than it is about Kim, her dogs or her breeding program. It's just noticeable that some people get roasted and some people get praised for doing the same things.

by DDRCzechFan on 15 April 2012 - 17:04

Thank goodness this board hasn't stopped a few breeders with it's harshness, who knows, Kim or anyone else may produce the next "big one"! Truth be told, I think many times we jump on newbies so harshly that instead of encouraging them to breed RIGHT, we encourage them to breed QUIETLY; To not tell anyone what they're doing or to ask for advice for fear of repremandation, of being judged of being verbally beaten (you and I have both seen that enough times, I'm sure).
Granted, I don't think everyone should just tell anyone that breeding untitled, unhealth cleared Suzie to untitled, unhealth cleared Bobby down the street is a good idea, but perhaps if in the "growing years" of this website, had we not so quickly and viciously condemened, many newbies wouldn't be so scared to ASK questions to improve.
It's rather sad, really.
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