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by SitasMom on 08 April 2012 - 16:04

how does he look in a stack pose?

in the photo he shows a steep croup. and hocks that point inward as show by his hind feet pointing outward.

in this photo he is "bridged" front legs far in front and hind legs far in back which stretches and flattens his back more then normal.



if you want to be fair, take a photo in a correct stack position and then we can compare him to the others.

here's the general confituration for a correct stack......the lines are placed as a guide.

note that with this dog, the far hind let is more upright the we see in most conformaiton dogs which give him the appearance of a more flattened topline.












 


by duke1965 on 08 April 2012 - 16:04

sitasmum , I dont care so much for stcked pics . I like a natural position
here is his father in a naturl position , a little different topline I would say

sorry it is the left dog I thought this were separate pictures




BlackthornGSD

by BlackthornGSD on 08 April 2012 - 17:04

You seem to be saying that there is what is commonly called a dip behind the withers--this is where the spinus processes reverse directions and several large muscular attachments fasten along the back.

It is less desirable to have a visible dip here, but it isn't usually considered a "break" in the topline. It is common in the workingline dogs, especially, because they have a shorter coat and "bunchier" muscling, in general, than dogs bred for the show ring. I've heard that doing more trotting exercise with a dog to build up the muscles used in trotting will often help smooth out the appearance of this dip.


Christine

BlackthornGSD

by BlackthornGSD on 08 April 2012 - 17:04




by SitasMom on 08 April 2012 - 17:04


duke1965 - both photos you posted are of dogs in stacked positions.

the first, which is a trained natural stack in decent for positioning, but a little stretched (the farthest hock should be 90^ vertical from the ground,
the other is horrible, the dog's hock is flat on the ground as if the owenr is trying to show more slope on the back then she really has.

the challenge is for you to get a photo of YOUR dog in such a position - then you can post (or boast) straight back german shephed.




 

 

myret

by myret on 08 April 2012 - 18:04

brynjulf


I think I understand what you mean  but I can see it anyhow he is a beutiful dog though

take a look at these vids if you take a treat and hold over the dogs nose and up in a gsd the lower bacn will come down to much that must be the long angulated legs even if the dogs are not overly angulated

very different to the the body in a gsd and a straight back dog like this

take a look at both videos and look at both dogs lower back and hindlegs in the mal and gds most gsd fall alot in their lower back if you turn their heads straight up



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W2EzPjpgNYs&feature=relmfu

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5pm1qtrtFrk


by duke1965 on 08 April 2012 - 18:04

sitasmom , your off a bit , the first of originaltopic  is not stacked. and  the father is no trained natural stack , sorry , but a picture of my IPO2 trail exercise stand out of motion , the black female , I wrote , accidently came with the pickture of my male  as they had pups together once , so still I dont stack my dogs,  sorry

aaykay

by aaykay on 08 April 2012 - 22:04

Beautiful dog, duke1965.  Good working structure.  None of the sinking rear-end there, and that is a good thing. 

by SitasMom on 08 April 2012 - 23:04


i have also trained my dogs to "stand in motion" and in the stack position..... the stack is the position that a dog is in... as show in the photo before. its not that difficult to do.

as far as my actual comment(s) on your dog or the others, I haven't really given many, except for the evicence of yours being a bit cowhocked...

when a dog is "bridged" as yours is in the first photo, its back is actually curved downward, making it apear very flat, shich it may or may not be.






Rik

by Rik on 09 April 2012 - 11:04

This is an action photo of the dog and I don't see much benefit in trying to critique as a "show" stack.

anyway, looks like a very handsome dog with quite a bit of attention to less noticiable details in his breeding, pasterns are strong, feet look very nice and tight, angles are nice without being over done or over long bones in the rear. I think the fur is ruffled up on the neck/wither area, so probably not a true look at back.

overall, a very nice dog and congrats to his breeder.

jmo,
Rik





 


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