BAD BEHAVIOR - Page 2

My dear friends,  Echoecho, miperry, twomoons, Yellowrose, Red sable, and Rass,  first of all I want to thanks everybody for your advices. I read all messages and I tried put them into practice.
In the morning Fidu tried to steal my little doggy  her bone and I hear them fighting, it was the first time he did it, I cried loudly and they stopped fighting whe I arrived he had spiky hairs then I put him into the yard as a punishment. Later I took him for a walk and when i was closing the door he bit a dog outside, we entered and tied him in the yard for a while, and we went out again. He didn't bark any person, just the others dogs, but many of them provoked him. Later came a friend of mine who he didn't know and he was a good boy in general, but he began to bark at her, so I ask my friend she  play with the ball and Fidu became very friendly with her.
I m showing you some up to date photos, he is with me, they were took today exept the one he is sat. Thanks again.

Hi mentaflor, your puppy is very normal at least from the GSD's I've had.

Keep taking him out and about and let him see the big old world is not such a bad place.  I maybe don't handle it correctly, but at that age, I don't scold too much, I just keep walking and don't linger on other dogs  or humans at all.  If he gets all worried about another dog, get him to focus on you, treat and praise.

Socialize socialize socialize.  Get him out there so much that soon it all becomes common place and he will not worry about it.

 

 MENTAFLOR

YOU pup sounds normal and he is forging forward and is gorgeous also.

He is acting like a normal gsd with some prey..

You are the first poster which I did not address, as my post was towards the other poster who gave you some advice, which was ok.

Do not scold, use prey and toys and get him away from the problem..turn the other way, get away from any other dog he is in a scuff with..sometime we have to only play with one dog at a time when they are pups like he is
 
He has high prey and is seems to be intense on SHOWING everyone he is dominant..that is good..

He just needs lots of play , do not yell at him, use toys and FOOD to get his FOCUS on you...You are who he is to look at...if he starts growling or barking at other dogs,, immediately show food get his attention and go the other way briefly taking him out of the what ever or whoever he is trying to bite or grab.

Use obedience for 10 minutes at a time...then play with toys...use toys for obedience he cannot play with..put them up..
they are obedience toys..using food for reward.

HE is gorgeous ...and is perfectly normal...be sure to keep  him on a leash out in public and make sure he has shots and be careful about other dogs in public..I do  not let people pet or give food or have contact when puppies..
My instructions about backing up and not approaching was to the other poster under your first post  but it still can be of help for you to understand ,,obedience and control is ok...but when playing let pup be puppy..if he tries to bite you in play ,,,give toys or tugs or rags with knots in them taking away the urge to bite you or another ....always use the toy for instruction and use it to positively get the dogs attention rather than no or yelling. Yelling is of no good. DOGS don't respond to yelling,,unless they are in trial and you have to yell to make sure the dog hears the correct command in bite work or trialing..

Late after he is 1yr old, and doesnt mind, you can use force, and loud commands..but after he is given time to mature, you must do  command , correction and reward...in that order...

two corrections , then use some kind of quick yank of leash, or some quick grab of collar and place dog quickly back beside you  and redo what ever he did wrong and hopefully he got his ears full and his body told to not do something..Using force after he refuses to listen is necessary;.. Seek a good trainer if he is so high drive he won't listen to you and the trainer can train you...first...all of us had to be trained first..when we were new in this breed.

YR

Thanks for you message Redsable, you are right he dont bark because a skittish dog but he is jelous and dominant, i think. When I first visited the breder i wanted to buy a couple of sables, but there were not male sables, so I bought Fidu because He seemed to be friendly as the other dogs included his father, and I asked the breeder for keeping a female sable. But now I want to educate Fidu first, I prefer to wait resolve the problem with Fidu.

Metaflor:

MY instructions were not to you ....they were to the skiddish dog who backed up...who gave you advice after your first post.

Made this thread a little confusing..no way I wanted you to take advice from another whose pup did not fit to your pup

I just neglected to address it to Miperry//// It kinda overshadowed yours as I saw immediated fault there...

sorry
read the post below your pictures.

You are correct to learn with the first one and most breeders will tell you...ruin the first one and learn on that one and then the second one is easier.

YR

Hi mentaflor, I do think he barks at this age because he fearful, but his confidence will grow as he gets used to everything around him, including new sites, sounds, people and dogs (from a distance).

He has  what I call some defence in him, which will make him a good 'alert' dog and more suspicious of strangers and therefore more watchful.  Which, is probably why you got a German Shepherd, right?
Just please remember to socialize the heck out of him, if will make him a better dog. :)

All the best!

Hi Yellowrose, Dont worry everything are clear now, I misunderstood you. I wont shout at Fidu any more, But some time ago I had to give him a jerk with the collar because he was about to kill my pets. I had to be rude there was not other option, I called the trainer but he couldnt come because he works far away my home so that I had to resolve it somehow, but i prefer not to use force. When he is barking other dog he dont pay me atention, he show all his teeth, and i am afraid i will not be able to handle him when he grow.

Mentaflor:

Re read my posts to you..'yes you must use dominant control....use commands and play toys and food...when he doesnt obey...USE FORCE...not yelling...

if he doesn't respond to first correction...get harder...YES, you must use force.
sorry but you have a dominant dog.

try using all the positive ways..it is hard to think   oh use the toy...turn the other way...get happy and act like a clown....why???to attract your dogs attention away from the other dogs or people or thing he is looking at....use food reward not as a bribe..

Yelling is the only thing you have to overcome....you must be ALPHA>..the BOSS>..if you do not now,,yes he will show teeth and bite later when not suppose to.

You are doing it , just try to remember...use toys, tugs, rags,,,and food in tiny pieces to reward him..
he will learn..
If he refuses to do it the first or second time....PUT HIM IN HIS KENNEL..IF you do not crate , then get one and use it

NOt AS A PUNISHMENT...BUT HE NEEDS  SHUT down time...if he is not obeying put in kennel, walk away do your chores, watch tv , do your things..later pick up where you left off..take out as normal routines but be ready to use toys and keep him away from bad things..he does by acting funny , loud silly things with a toy in your hand ..let him play , throw , fetch and teach him new things....keep him busy...but make him mind...

It is ok to yank his collar and his leash and to tell him he is doing wrong..put your finger on his no\se and make him look at your face..use leash and happiness to train him..make him like you but be dominant..he will do it on your time, your space and when and where you want him to...reward much...and praise him then put in kennel and let him have quiet time.

tHE REASON FOR THE CRATE AT TIMES , when you are not playing is for his safety and to learn he cannot just do anything he wants...Dogs get mad and will act out after you correct them like tear up your shoes , you magazine,etc,,,so the crate makes them safe and know   you love him and will be back to get him out or HER...and cannot destroy or do bad things when you are not looking..just like a human child...but we cannot cage our kids....lol     but we do send them to rooms and or Time out...which is same kind of obedience.


YR

Hi everyone,

Ok, maybe I didn't express myself correctly - he isn't running away from strangers. He will come and sniff the person who approached him. He is very curious about everything. He just doesn't like when people try to touch him and pet him. He doesnt hide behind me, just sort of moves away a bit from the person, but then goes around his business, comes back again to sniff. He doesn't seem stressed or tail between his legs.
Of course I don't want him to jump in happy bliss everytime someone calls him, but he just needs to allow people to touch him gently, because obviously we will face situations in the future when it's nessesary - vet, etc. 
At the vet, after he relaxed, the nurse approached him and he stayed calm just moved his head away when she tried to touch him after he sniffed her. So I think he just needs more socializing. Before he came to us the only person he new was his breeder (yes, I know, breeder should have socialized him, but well, he didnd't, so it's up to us to strat from scratch, but I don't see a huge problem or reason to panic. He is already half way there. Even with other dogs he is doing much better. So it's just a matter of time and patience. 

Hi,

I can't better the advice you've already been given so I won't waste anyone's time by trying.

I just wanted to say that a skittish dog can be worked with and can become naturally accepting of strange situations.

My oldest GSD, Zane is now just 4 years old. As a young dog he was incredibly skittish. It took me about 18 months altogether of extremely hard work (bearing in mind I also had other dogs at home to work with too) each  and every day.

He is now used as a stooge dog for others who have problems with other dogs and I take him into primary schools (for children aged 4-11 years for those not in the UK) to teach children how to remain safe around dogs.

Zane is so chilled out he's float down the street instead of using his feet if he could. Although I worked with him, it's because of hte dog he is that I've been able to achieve this level of clamness with him and I'm very proud of him. He will still alert me to something he's not happy about but sill stand next to me to do it. He doesn't back off nor does he try to hide behind my legs.

You will also have to make sure you don't inadvertently reinforce the unwanted behaviours by trying to reassure the dog whilst he's behaving inappropriately. Can be difficult but if you think every time you speak or touch him, you should't run into ny problems.

Also, he shouldn't be dominant at aby ages, certainly not at 3.5 months. Although he should be confident. Maybe I'm misunderstanding your post so please accept my apologies if I've got the wrong idea.

Something that does concern me though - you have stated that he bit another dog when you were going out. Was your pup not on a leash/lead? did another dog stray onto yourproperty? How did this dog bite come about? Was is just a nip or a full on bite? Was it your own bitch he bit or was it someone else's dog he bit?

He clearly enjoys playing and will focus on you. If you work at that as well as what others have suggested I think you'll see an imrpovement in a few short weeks.

Good luck and try to enjoy your pup for who he is.