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by Red Sable on 12 October 2011 - 17:10
I'm sorry Emoore. I'm glad you brought this up though, it maybe will spare someone else the grief.
by Schaferhunden on 12 October 2011 - 18:10
A few more the died from gastric torsion(Bloat)
F -Wartenberg
I - Poppitz
R vom Ludwigseck
Uncas vom Poppitz
F -Wartenberg
I - Poppitz
R vom Ludwigseck
Uncas vom Poppitz
by Emoore on 12 October 2011 - 21:10
Thanks all. I think I will go ahead and do the gastropexy once he's fully grown. Just to big of a risk.
by DAK44 on 12 October 2011 - 22:10
Good decision Emoore. I had my girl done when she was spayed
Has anyone noticed a higher instance of Bloat in any of the czech lines?
Has anyone noticed a higher instance of Bloat in any of the czech lines?
by Schaferhunden on 12 October 2011 - 22:10
Grim z PS
by Red Sable on 12 October 2011 - 22:10
I think most of the dogs listed by Schaferhunden are DDR.
by Ibrahim on 12 October 2011 - 23:10
Sorry to hear this news, I will google bloat and read more about it.
Ibrahim
Ibrahim
by gagsd4 on 12 October 2011 - 23:10
I had a Grim son. He bloated. But he was also 14 years old.
by hexe on 13 October 2011 - 01:10
Be forewarned that even after having the gastropexy done, the dog can still bloat--all the tacking does is try to prevent the stomach from twisting on it's axis...and in some instances, the tacking doesn't hold, and the dog goes into torsion anyway.
There's a website with illustrations showing the location of the acupressure point that stimulates peristaltic activity in the gastrointestinal tract in dogs, as demonstrated by a veterinarian:
http://www.iwane.org/acp_point_v2.htm
I was *extremely* skeptical that it could work, I had the unfortunate opportunity to try it...and by the time I got the dog to the vet's office (at 2 AM--of course) her stomach had decompressed, and you could hear the normal gut sounds without a stethoscope; an x-ray confirmed that everything was normal again.
It only takes a few seconds, so you can do it while you're calling the vet, or have someone else do it while you're driving to the vet--if the dog has already gone into the torsion, the acupressure point won't help, but if the dog is simply bloating, it can make a significant difference. After that initial trial, I used the technique a myriad of times over the past two years--my last old girl started having bloating episodes in the evening periodically after she hit 13 years old, so I watched her closely and used the pressure point as soon as I noticed tightness in her abdomen or expansion toward the rear of the ribcage...and we did not make another visit to the vet's for bloating for the remainder of her life.
It's well worth learning to locate the pressure point, IMO...it can't do any harm.
There's a website with illustrations showing the location of the acupressure point that stimulates peristaltic activity in the gastrointestinal tract in dogs, as demonstrated by a veterinarian:
http://www.iwane.org/acp_point_v2.htm
I was *extremely* skeptical that it could work, I had the unfortunate opportunity to try it...and by the time I got the dog to the vet's office (at 2 AM--of course) her stomach had decompressed, and you could hear the normal gut sounds without a stethoscope; an x-ray confirmed that everything was normal again.
It only takes a few seconds, so you can do it while you're calling the vet, or have someone else do it while you're driving to the vet--if the dog has already gone into the torsion, the acupressure point won't help, but if the dog is simply bloating, it can make a significant difference. After that initial trial, I used the technique a myriad of times over the past two years--my last old girl started having bloating episodes in the evening periodically after she hit 13 years old, so I watched her closely and used the pressure point as soon as I noticed tightness in her abdomen or expansion toward the rear of the ribcage...and we did not make another visit to the vet's for bloating for the remainder of her life.
It's well worth learning to locate the pressure point, IMO...it can't do any harm.
by Gustav on 13 October 2011 - 02:10
This is another reason for genetic diversity,imo, when people continually breed these same dogs to each other in these same so called "lines", it comes with a price in health and temperament. Been preachin this for ions...some take it personal. I have a DDR female but I never planned to breed her to another DDR dog. Some of these lines are too saturated...that's why I laugh when people question why Czech breeders want to breed to West dogs. For one, it is a smart thing to do.....maintaining these lines for type or performance only is ego satisfying but ultimately will breed you into a corner.JMO
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