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by danny killeen on 11 September 2011 - 23:09
More to the point....
WHY BREED FOR COLOUR ANYWAY??????
WHY BREED FOR COLOUR ANYWAY??????
by MVF on 12 September 2011 - 01:09
pt1 gets points for creativity!
As sable is dominant, there is apparently no way that two "non-sable" parents can create sable progeny, but white can "mask" the sable gene!
I'm impressed.
As sable is dominant, there is apparently no way that two "non-sable" parents can create sable progeny, but white can "mask" the sable gene!
I'm impressed.
by JRANSOM on 12 September 2011 - 03:09
Sorry,
Just have to put this out there. Some wonder why the OP never posts again. Just look at the feedback the poster gets and there you go. I know so many of you know so much, but so many do not and that''s why they come here! Then, when they do, they get blasted. Okay, welcome aboard, let me tear you apart!
Just have to put this out there. Some wonder why the OP never posts again. Just look at the feedback the poster gets and there you go. I know so many of you know so much, but so many do not and that''s why they come here! Then, when they do, they get blasted. Okay, welcome aboard, let me tear you apart!
by Jenni78 on 12 September 2011 - 03:09
That's true, but in this case...that post was so vague, I had no idea what they were talking about. Were they asking seriously? Or were they asking because they were suspicious of a breeder who said they had this? Or some other reason?
by Pharaoh on 12 September 2011 - 04:09
I agree with Ibrahim's interpretation. Ibrahim's English is excellent, yet, as a non-native English speaker, he recognizes the difficulties that most people have. English is not an easy language to learn. I studied Spanish in high school and college because it is really easy with consistent rules for pronunciation and spelling and small vocabulary. English is a crazy hodgepodge of several languages, lots of rules and lots of exceptions.
The dark sable puppy was born from parents who are identified as "not" sable.
frankow was merely asking how did that happen, knowing that sable is dominant.
frankow does not specify what the parental coloring is. I assumed he meant both black and tan.
YR speculates that if you had say, a black and tan dog carrying the recessive black gene and a patterned sable misidentified as a black and tan, they could produce a sable puppy carrying the black recessive. That puppy would be a very dark sable.
Michele
The dark sable puppy was born from parents who are identified as "not" sable.
frankow was merely asking how did that happen, knowing that sable is dominant.
frankow does not specify what the parental coloring is. I assumed he meant both black and tan.
YR speculates that if you had say, a black and tan dog carrying the recessive black gene and a patterned sable misidentified as a black and tan, they could produce a sable puppy carrying the black recessive. That puppy would be a very dark sable.
Michele
by Rico on 12 September 2011 - 07:09
To know more about sable's I advice you to visit the site of Margit van Dorssen.
http://www.arlett.de/sables/index.html
by duke1965 on 12 September 2011 - 17:09
spraypaint
by frankow on 12 September 2011 - 18:09
Thank you all, and sorry for my English. In South Africa we have 11 official languages of which English is my 4th.
Maybe I should explain: I visited a breeder who showed me 4 pups and the parents of the pups. The sire is 'Black', dam is 'B/tan', and the pups- 1x black male, 1x black female, 1xb/tan male, 1x dark sable male. The kennel is registered with KUSA ( Kennel Union of Southern Africa).
Once again apologies, if I offended anyone with my English, and thanks to those who posted positive and uplifting comments, but at the end of the day, it is about the German Shepherd dog, and not about us.
Maybe I should explain: I visited a breeder who showed me 4 pups and the parents of the pups. The sire is 'Black', dam is 'B/tan', and the pups- 1x black male, 1x black female, 1xb/tan male, 1x dark sable male. The kennel is registered with KUSA ( Kennel Union of Southern Africa).
Once again apologies, if I offended anyone with my English, and thanks to those who posted positive and uplifting comments, but at the end of the day, it is about the German Shepherd dog, and not about us.
by pod on 12 September 2011 - 20:09
Frankhow, there is good evidence to suggest that dominant black is now in some of the Russian GSD bloodlines. That's not to say that it can't be in other bloodlines too. If the sire of this litter is a dominant black, then yes, it is possible to produce black, sable and B&T in one litter from those parents.
If you have more details of the sire - names and colour of his parents, grandparents, colour of other litters that he may have sired... this might help in identifying his colour genotype.
If you have more details of the sire - names and colour of his parents, grandparents, colour of other litters that he may have sired... this might help in identifying his colour genotype.
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