Aggresive 13 month old male GS - Page 2

So Stoner that qualifies you to give advise to an inexperienced 17 year old pet owner.  A dog that is titled with an attitude, which basically says it has respect for someone and has had 100's of hours of training does not relate to this situation.  This is a high school person who has no real knowledge of sport dogs or dogs that have been taught that biting will bring gratification.  Was this "bad ass" IPO dog with the World's Best Pedigree your first dog when you were a teenager?  Don't compare yourself and your own dog to someone else's problem.  How many handler aggressive dogs have you fixed that belonged to teenagers you've never met?

If you can give the general area you live in It's possible that someone on data base would know someone close to your area that could help you with him. Just don't post your address or phone number. But get some help or get rid of it.

Phil is absolutely right, the OP needs a real dog trainer, not a messageboard full of Internet experts.

I had absolutely no intention of diagnosing and suggesting training for the dog. I completely agree that it is dangerous to give such advice over the Internet. I asked if the person had consulted a trainer, if not, that would have been my suggestion. I was curious about the aggression as it is a broad term. To the OP - What does the trainer say?

Some of the people on this board could be professional trainers.

So are the can-uckle-heads at Petco

The OP tried a professional trainer yet didn't get far.  I see your points Phil and get where you are coming from for sure.  Yet on the other hand the FACT is that millions of people world wide have solved handler aggression on their own with no help from anyone except a good book from the library.  People make dog training out to be this secretive elite vocation when in reality even many pro trainers will tell you a 6th grader can train a dog.  It's a dog, not an african lion.  The idea the dog is going to rip the OP to shreds and bleed the person out and then drag them into the closet and feed on them is not going to happen.  The biting could be dealt with.  Especially if everyone did away with all the drama surrounding "aggression" issues.

I disagree.   The original poster tried a cop, a professional law enforcement officer who's K9 dog was probably trained by someone else.  Putting a CD on your own personal dog does not a dog trainer make.  It takes hours and hours of vested time and hundreds of dogs of varying types to develop hypotheses and techniques that will give you "ideas" on how to fix a particular problem.  Filling your "toolbox" with methods and ideas only equips you to do a better job.  Reading a book and sending some dues to the PDTA is as false as watching a weeks worth of Cesar Milan and hanging out a shingle. 

The dog won't care what someones credentials are, what their shingle or business card looks like, or anything else if the technique quickly and effectively stops the aggression. 

Kind of like it doesn't matter if I have a black belt or not if I stomp on someones head, they will not deny they got their butt kicked.  Results are results. 

None of the points you have made are bad or wrong. In fact they are all good and correct in their own context.  Yet I still think that dog ownership really should not be this complex or difficult though.  In the end, a dog is still a dog and people have lived with them for thousands of years long before the concept of "trainers" even existed.........