Hips Positioning - Page 2

I'd want to see a good xray just to get a real look at exactly what's going on as compared to a good set. I would suspect pretty serious injury in that hip; that is some major flattening. 

Bhall, what's the story? 

Well, the owner can do what he/she wants. If this were my dog I would certainly not subject it to anyore manipulations to try to get a better positioned xray using the notion that unilateral HD is injury mediated which it rarely is per OFA researchers. If that ligament gets stretched much more than it already is, that dog might need surgical intervention to stabilize the joint.

If I felt this was a not a genetic problem, I'd send a copy of the xray off to the ortho dept at the local vet school for their opinion. An injury intense enough to have caused this type of luxation and remodeling would not have gone unnoticed by the owner.

 

imo , I wouldnot bother , if the left(on picture)leg is positioned correctly , the outcome will look even worse

2 year old male bred by me.  No doubt about the bad hip.  NO DOUBT!!!  I will post x-rays of his full sister later.  Sisters hips EXCELLENT!!!
Not trying to make the hips look better just wish they were positioned better.  Dog has not been with owner for the past year.  Has been in a kennel being trained for Schutzhund.  Just wondering if that could have been an injury. 
Already told owner that I will definately do whatever I need to to make it right,  injury or not.  Dog shows no signs of pain and no limping whatsoever.

I wouldn't necessarily blame the vet on this one.  A joint that bad sometimes CAN'T be put into the correct position.  Forcing it will only risk injuring the dog more than it already is.  No reason to subject him to more radiation either.  It's clear no matter what that he's not going to pass.  Personally, I'd send off to an orthopedic specialist for review and advice.

Wow. And this fellow is just a 2 year old.

PLEASE, Bhall, suggest that the owner NOT subject this poor dog to another session just to try and get a better film--it's not gonna happen.  That pelvis is as straight as it's likely to get for a radiograph, even if the dog is fully anesthetized, and there's something SERIOUSLY wrong here--see how abnormal the body of the ileum is on the right side of the dog's pelvis (arrows) in comparison to the completely normal left side? 

I don't know *what* the hell happened to this dog's pelvis, but I certainly don't think one can rule out this being the aftermath of a SERIOUS injury to this dog's right hindquarters...I don't know of any developmental condition that would result in this type of malformation to one side of the pelvis. 

Is the dog with the owner at this moment, or is it still with someone else?

[bump] Also, curious as to how long the dog was with the owner before it went out for training/titling, and how long it was in the training facility....

From what I know the dog has been with the trainer for 14-15 months now. 

I hate to be negative, but from hexe's blow up of that...methinks the trainer may know damn well what happened to that dog. I'm skeptical that no one has any idea if the dog suffered an injury. I can't begin to guess what would cause that. Thanks for the enlargement, Hexe! Wow...makes a difference. 

*SOMEBODY* knows what happened to this dog, Jenni, of that I have no doubt.  And a veterinary orthopedist could likely give an estimate of how long ago the event occured if they have an original film to view, because it would be possible to see more detail than we can from a copy that was emailed to Bhall and then reproduced here. 

I do think it's a pretty safe bet that this dog's career as a sport dog should be considered closed at this point...he needs to be kept lean and fit, but he certainly doesn't need to be scaling A-frames, jumping walls or putting any unnecessary stress on that right rear leg--I'd be concerned that he's at increased risk of tearing one or both cruciates as he tries to compensate for the abnormal structure he's been left with.