Hip x-rays .... what you think? - Page 2

Here is an example of OFA Moderate, SV a4

Unilateral or bilateral? How old?

Unilateral, imo.

I see more remodeling and subluxation on that film. If it were my dog (in the film above) I would've liked to see a perfect xray just for my own knowledge. IMO, when comparing hips, as OFA does (meaning no set criteria...they are simply compared to their "ideal") we need a level playing field, which means identically perfect xrays- symmetrical, full knees showing, no tilted pelvises, etc. That won't happen, of course, but that's why I agree w/Blitzen's last post.

At 30 months with sedation, OFA Moderate - Unilateral subluxation and remodelling



At 37 months without sedation, SV a4


I think Elkoorr's dog is a little better than this dog, but not much IMO.  Hope this helps.

Thank you all for your opinions. The boy was fully sedated as rays were taken, therefore the sublaxation. I will try to find a vet who is willing to do without, or talk this vet into some minimal sedation with acepromazine (dog is drowsy but fully awake). All opinions I have gotten (not just from here) range from "not passing at all" to at least "fair", but have one thing in common.... to achieve a better positioning before sending them anywhere.

I too think the position can be much better. The patellas are visible and one can see that the Left leg (on right of screen) is not as much turned into it as it should. The hip itself is fine, taking the sublaxation away will show a thighter and deeper seat. The rims are nicely round and smooth, the notch is visible. This hip can get at least a good if better positioned.
The Right hip (on left of screen) is a bit more of concern. Taken the subluxation away the seating will be deeper. The concern is that the rim of the ball is not as smooth and there is a small thickening corner at the lower edge of the ball. This could be a hint of an athritic change, which could have been the result of his accident as pup. The femur here is pulled to far inward, should be straighter which would close that small gap on the upper rim.
The pelvis overall is sligtly twisted upward on the left side. I dont see any thickening of the necks and also no remodeling. He is 50% east german, lines that are known for having short thick necks.

Please feel free to draw arrows in where you see remodeling or other changes like thickening and repost the pic.

I certainly think it's worth another xray. Obviously, Elkoorr you are well educated in evaluating hip xrays. The only thing we disagree on is not sedating him in a effort to try to reduce any luxation assuming you want a true picture of his hips. Good luck!
 

Guess I am just afraid he will hurt somebody in the process. He is a hard head and will show agression if he is pushed too far. Acepromazine is kind of the doggy valium ...lol

My job requires me to have some interpretation skills of abnormalities on x-rays, CT scan, and MRIs. However, since it is my dog I dont want to be blind due to wishful thinking. So every point-out is welcome.

Oh, yeah, I think he should be sedated or heavily tranqed. A lot of dogs don't like to be rolled on their backs and stretched from both ends. I've had a few of those myself. I love ace, the drug of choice for many doggy problems.

He may be your dog, but you are clearly not blinded by that. 
 

NOW LOOK AT THIS X-RAY HERE THIS IS FROM ONE OF MY MALES HIS HIPS CAME BACK A FAIR.

Goes to show they most certainly don't look at what SHOULD be visible...only what is. Better positioning may have resulted in tighter hips and a better rating, Don. Fair is fine though; personally, passing is passing, to me, and what the dog produces is far more important than what the dog itself is.