not right kennel?? - Page 18

Mystere...I have seen a lot of threads go on for a lot more than 9 pages over stuff that was a lot less and mainly gone off topic.  This has for the most part stayed on topic.

all breeders warrant any defective things on dogs. this i am sure is a genetic issue as since he raised his ears  the right one has been this way. we are talking 4 months as he is now over 7 mo. old
hans has been aware of this as long as i have been. he kepy saying it will straighten up. it hasn't and it never will.
i doubt there is a serious breeder that would breed the dog.
as for me knowing that it came from another kennel other than jinipo, i did not!!
in all honesty and giving jeri the benifit of the doubt, he may of not knowed how bad i wanted this dog to be his, not the other guys.
for me it is over. i may have a hard time selling the pup as i am out of the game. it is not because of this but health reasons.
hans acts like he is a big part of jinipo and he is nothing , other a broker for them.i have had 4 e-mails  as to some of the dogs hans has sent to people. none of these has gotten satisfied from the ordeal as one of them called it. warranty hell, he has no warranty on a piece of paoer that costs you more money. they pay nothing on replacement. read all the contract, i didn't, or i never would have let hans get involved.i trusted him to do the right thing. all he and his wife has done is lie, lie lie!!

and jenn,poor  pathetic jinn. with names like trump and hilton wow.!!
also you never mentioned that single brood bitch you have that is ready to have her fourth litter. how old is she.
also i would like to hear about the black male . you shyed away when i mentioned it earlier on.
you are so critical of everone. why hide in the dark? a lot of fololks would like to hear about your great dogs.
you act as though you are a trainer but in real life you pay to have your dogs trained.
i  know more about you and your dealings than you think.
 i don't like you and have never liked a loudmouth that acts as though they are a real dog person when they have to pay for almost everthing done.
 i am going to hang around as long as i can  to see you make foolish statements that you can't back up. have a bad evening jenn..

Dude, you sound disturbed. You wanted it so badly to be his? Is this really going on? If you think so highly of Jiri, why wouldn't you trust his judgement of the bitch mated with HIS male? I mean c'mon. How else do you pump 40 litter a year?

Wade,

Would you sell the dog for $2000 to cut your losses?  I know you said that you have put in $4000 into the now 7 month old pup but there is no way someone will pay $4000 for it.

Would a replacement work?  I know you said your health is bad and you are getting out of the business so does that prevent you from possibly returning the dog and asking for a replacement?


With all of this stuff....what are some possible solutions that you are looking for?

Ace, you need to click Wades screen name and read the other threads he posted and what he had to say in each one.After you have read the guarentee of dogs thread and the eurosport k9 and alpine k9 threads click on the Fargo ad in the ads sent section, read the line right above Fargos picture. I believe you'll have the answer to your question. As to who's being honest about this, you'll have to make that decision for yourself.

This really is a joke. You have a nice looking pup. A young dog and his ear isn't fully up. It does not look twisted just floppy. If you don't want the pup sell it.



 

ThIs thread is truly like the game we use to play in Girl Scouts around the camp fire. I whisper something in the ear of the girl on the right and by the time it comes back to me on the LEFT

It is a cat instead of a dog and it has stripes instead of polka dots..

FIREDIST8:

THE EAR IS  CURLED LIKE A TWIST ...SEEN IN THE VIDEO AND already discribed.  LIKE WRESTLEMAN stated way back .....

I WOULDN"T have wanted to pay that kind of price with the kind of reputation of these KENNELS with a Pup whose ear didn't flop straight or stand straight..

I want no pretzels ears or Twisty EARS NO MATTER IF THEY FLOP OR STAND...period>

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Want a warranty?  Buy a refrigerator.  It's not possible to actually 'guarantee' a living creature that's not even matured yet.  Confirm all of the pertinant facts before you put your money out there--get proof of health clearances/ratings; of titles and breed survey and show ratings; proof that both the sire and dam are actually *registered* with the appropriate registry, and that the owners of each have signed off on the litter registration; proof that the pup you're buying is either already registered, or proof that the registration is being processed.  Pay a reasonable price for the animal, inspect it and have it vet-checked on arrival, and from that point on, it's up to you as the new owner to do the very best you can to see that the pup grows up sound, strong and correct.

All the 'warranty' paperwork in the world can't keep a pup from becoming dysplastic, if that's what is in that pup's genetic hand of cards. You want to be sure of everything with a dog? Then only buy fully mature dogs--by age 5-6 years, pretty much everything that's going to rear it's ugly head as far as health or soundness issues goes will have already shown itself.  Ya takes your chances with everything younger, and the first rule of sensible gambling is to never bet more than you can afford to lose.

Maybe breeders should start including a disclaimer in their ads, like the ones you hear for investment products such as oil futures...

"Past results of our breedings are not indicative of future performance, and certain information in this ad contains certain forward-looking statements, which are subject to risks and uncertainties common to living, growing creatures.  You should only purchase an immature dog if you are willing to accept certain risks.  Dog breeding and/or buying is extremely risky . You should be prepared to lose all of the funds that you invest in a purchased dog, plus additional expenses. In particular, you should not fund dog breeding and/or buying activities with retirement savings, student loans, second mortgages, emergency funds, funds set aside for purposes such as education or home ownership, or funds required for current income to meet your living expenses."

Very well said Hexe. 

For all you Guys who expect the earth in warranties and contracts when buying a Puppy.
I can tell you now i have never had a Contract or Warranty for the last 5 pups i have bought. Never thought about one and never wanted one, I did my homework and i trusted the Kennels i bought from to do me right if something drastic went wrong.
Even in the case of little Heidi no fault of anyone's just an accident i was offered a free replacement of a Puppy of my choice at no cost at all to me, and i got one even to the point of picking out her Father before his Female was put to a Male.
That is trust on both sides, The same with my last two Pups from Germany the Breeder has pride in his single litter every year and he is a really honest Guy, in other words not out to make a quick Buck or sell dogs for a living he works a 5 day week But the Quality of his Females and the rearing of the Pups is second to none.
So my advice is to keep away from places where they churn out Pups for fun and do your homework thoughly before you commit your self and your money, then you will have an happier outcome that this fellow Wade has.
Steve1