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Ninja181

by Ninja181 on 24 December 2012 - 16:12

Ninja, was it?--noted that all his guns were locked up in his safes at home, because he was at work, and only he has the keys; so basically, then, if your wife and/or kids are home, and you're at work, they're on their own with just the dog for self-protection? The guns are only for 'self-protection' when your 'self' is there to be protected/protecting?  That doesn't seem right...


Hexe it is the right thing to do IMO. Neither my wife nor daughter are interested in getting a firearms permit, they are not interest in shooting guns, nor are they interested in taking a gun safety course.

The worst thing you can do IMO is leave guns accessible to people that don't know anything about them.

by Preston on 24 December 2012 - 17:12

Folks, these mass shootings are MKultra staged events.  They are gladio style false flag attacks.  Study history and learn from it.  Until the covert ops of intel agencies are exposed publicly and stopped these types of staged attacks on the Second Amendment and our rights will continue. http://www.veteranstoday.com/2012/12/20/sandy-hook-massacre-official-story-spins-out-of-control/

This whole case has been presented by the police and media with so many bold faced lies and inaccuracies it is amazing.  And yet most of the public just blandly accepts it at face value without questioning the gross inconsistencies.  This is simply amazing and one has to wonder why.  The answer is that most people are sheeple and look at the major mass media as the official USG spokesman (and technically they are) and see the USG as an idealized parent of God figure. And that is sad.  Of course the propose of ANY totalitarian state is to destroy the peoples' view of God and substitute the state as God, teaching their children to worship it as God.

If you truly want semi autos done away with, then ask yourself this question:  why not start with the police and military?  The military were disarmed on US bases and ship when not in direct combat under Jimmy Carter and look what happened when one of the psychiatrists went ballistic and slaughtered many.  If they had been armed they could have fought back and stopped it cold.

If you disarm the police of semi-autos, the career criminals of organized crime will always get them.  They can buy them from dirty police that confiscate them and sell them for and from military that steal them from armories.  Sorry, but it has always been this way. Sometimes drug cartel members here import them in to the USA with the drugs. If the police need high powered weapons to fight the drug cartels and organized crime career criminals or other criminals with them, then the public definitely should have the needed firepower to protect their families too. Criminals always have been able to gets these weapons and will continue to be able to do so.

And what if the USG continues on its path like Nazi Germany which was completely disarmed by Hitler long before he started the roundup of people to send to the mass murder camps. Do we want to be disarmed like honest law abiding citizens were in Katrina who were attacked by the US military illegally.  Or what about when police swat teams attack the wrong house with flash bangs and just start shooting.  The State of Indiana recognized this problem and the right under the Constitution for citizens to protect themselves from police who were operating outside the law and passed a law stating this right plainly. 

One more thing, whether folks realize it or not mass mindkontrol has been actively deployed against the American population.  Jesse Ventura did a recent show on his Conspiracy Theory program about this. That this is now occurring is a proven fact, not theory. It is best if citizens become aware of this and start working to expose this and stop it through new legislation. Do you have the courage to step outside the box and learn about this? http://www.veteranstoday.com/2012/06/11/mass-mindkontrol-final-nwo-assault-on-the-american-people-and-their-republic/



J Basler

by J Basler on 24 December 2012 - 22:12

We can dream i guess.

by Preston on 25 December 2012 - 00:12

Here is former Governor Jesse Ventura's take on passing more restrictive gun control laws. Note the audience's response at the end favoring his common sense.
http://fromthetrenchesworldreport.com/christmas-2012-the-stuff-that-revolutions-are-made-of/28977/#more-28977

by hexe on 25 December 2012 - 02:12

Ok, Ninja, if your wife and daughters won't learn how to handle the weapons, I concede that point--just wasn't sure if the reason was them not wanting, or was YOU not wanting them to have access, to your guns.  FWIW, if I lived in a home that was stocked with weapons, I damn sure would want to know how to use them; if nothing else, were the day to come that I needed to sell them, it would be beneficial to know whether they were working properly, etc.

joanro, I don't underestimate the survival instinct; but I also don't underestimate the incapacitation of fear, either, nor the strength of social mannerisms we've all been taught. For every instance where a woman was able to go through with shooting someone threatening her [or man shooting someone threatening him], there's even more instances where the best that could be managed was to shoot 'over their head'--i.e., was unable to hold their aim when they fired--and more instances still where the firearm is never even drawn because the victim is frozen by their fear and reticence to cause physical pain to another person. It's just not easy for a mentally stable person to allow their baser, reptilian brain take over and control their actions.

by joanro on 25 December 2012 - 02:12

Well, I hope the alligator in me takes over the sane human in me if the time ever comes to life or death fight :-)


Sunsilver

by Sunsilver on 25 December 2012 - 15:12

Guns are part of the U.S. culture. This is one of the roots of the problem. In the Old West, it was vigilante justice. Guns 'kept the peace' so to speak.

In Canada, in that era, you couldn't take so much as a Bowie knife inside a bar, let alone a gun, and the law was there to back the rules up (R.C.M.P., then known as the North Western Mounted Police.)

It has now become a vicious cycle. People don't trust the cops or government to keep them safe, so they go out and buy guns. Guns get into the wrong hands, and there are mass shootings. People get MORE frightened and go out an buy even MORE guns, and the whole thing keeps snowballing. It's insane!

Hope you folks are proud of this: Preston, please note where Switzerland stands in relation to the U.S. !!!  Most of your so-called 'facts' are good for only one thing...wiping my butt with the paper they're printed on!  I am deeply offended to think you could even SUGGEST that the attack at Sandy Hook was a 'false flag' attack! 






by Blitzen on 25 December 2012 - 16:12

Thumbs Up Sunsilver.

by Preston on 26 December 2012 - 04:12

The NRA advocates rule of law for everyone and those in govt honoring their oaths to uphold the US Constitution and Bill of Rights. Adherence to the Constitution and Buill of Rights prohibits the formation of a police state accross the board.





 


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