Serious hard GSD - Page 15

I didn’t see anyone say it’s not a good dog. It’s a very good dog. The BSP scores prove it. Not sure what dogs you’re around in the US that can’t take that kind of pressure and are at the national level…but I know for a fact that the podium dogs and many, if not most, of the national level dogs I’ve been around can easily take that kind of pressure. I know for a fact that the WUSV winner puts plenty of pressure on her dog and he comes away from it just fine. I know first hand that the top GSD at WDC this year can easily take that type of pressure without blinking an eye.

Most of the time when you see “high drive” dogs fall apart under pressure its because the handlers don’t have enough skill to take the pressure off when necessary.

And yes…this dog probably perfectly proves how a dog can handle pressure in C and not in B…check the scores.

Sunny, no, he was trying to cause my dogs to mess up...running blinds was their club's Achilles heel.

I put a lot more 'pressure' on my dogs, none cave....I can't stand a weak dog. I've watched deb train, she handles dogs 'as needed', too. Why pamper a dog, if he can't take the training, unless it's some one's pet.

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US Nationals anyone? Dog flopping over in a long down, boom V is gone!
Tell me again how the Obedience score has anything to do with pressure.
If the B score is shitty it's primarily because it's bad training.

Absolutely ridiculous.

Maybe Old School Training ? 

 

That's not what happened at the US nationals...V wasn't gone because of a long down. And what's absolutely ridiculous? That the video shows nothing about the dog's hardness? If anything the score proves the dog isn't that hard...can't take those "old school" terrible corrections outside of C phase.

I like the dog and would love to see how hard he is but I did not see any example of hardness.

Paul

The hardness of the dog is obvious from the way he handled the hard corrections and not from how he was running blinds! When I see videos like thees I know there is a hope for GSD.  Awesome dog! great old style training. Some people can not say anything nice about anything unless it is theirs.

Lots of people have been PMing me about bismack dogs , so here it is ..I have 3 from von bismack , for anyone whose not familiar , he is former Romanian military dog handler and trainer / breeder.. He specifically breeds for agression and defense as not so much prey , theyre what most GSD enthusiast and fanciers have a conniption about ... They're usually very very big ( that's what they prefer in those countries )and do not fit the so called criteria , example , my males are around 27-28 inches tall and although barley over a year they weight a little over 100 pounds .. Will not make good ipo dogs due to slow maturity and size , they trip over themselves untill 15 months old , very leggy and long when young .. not very high energy like my Wgwl male And almost all the drive comes from defense . very deep inherent agression , only thing I can compare it to is prob a kangal or ovacharka ,and deep suspicion of strangers but completely loyal to family , not a good dog for most people cause they're legit very agressive and civil even with proper socialization ...not something you can take to a your local Starbucks on a sunny Sunday or the dog park , we are talking about 120 pounds plus GSD with kangal type agression towards strangers and other dogs. His lines are usually old Czech lines with lots of wgwl bred and prized for size and agression for the past 30 years  Hope that helps

Shawni
I got some pm's too. Many people wants a very aggressive GSD but they remain on the down low about it .I spoke to the owner of Canisa Bismack on FB a few days ago and he said in about 1 week his website will be up and running. He is sorting out some problems with the hosting company. And like I said theres someone I know selling a 1 year old sable Marco daughter, who is described as having " tear your face off " aggression.