not right kennel?? - Page 14

It seems unfair for a kennel to send a faulty dog, and expect the buyer to pay shipping charges to send it back.

RS....How is it unfair if it's in the warranty?  Every breeder has a warranty.  As a breeder buying a dog from another breeder, you should know the warranty.  If you don't like it, don't buy from the breeder.  Yes he has to pay for shipping of the replacement as per the warranty of the contract.  Don't forget the puppy was 8 weeks old when he got it.  There was no telling how the ear would be until the pup got older. Wade said he was willing to let the ear go and now that the name isn't what he wanted now he is pissed about everything.


This is what I don't understand and I am just speaking in general terms as I see it all the time and across different messageboards.  The buyer wants the breeder to live up to the contract/warranty when it favors them.  When it doesn't then they want the breeder to ignore the contract/warranty and "do what is right".

YR,
I hoped my last sentence would be good for a laugh or two.
Excellent idea though!
We worry so much about our dogs, we should do the same with our human companions.
 And, I will check in to my bitch's dam's kennel name also in case I need to sell her to some sucker after her money runs out.

The last thing that I will say about this whole thing is this:
I agree that the "right thing" should be done.
That includes both parties in this case.
Work it out amongst yourselves as men!
Not on the internet.

       YR.. Who the hell do you think you are asking a new member, ANY member those questions? Oh I forgot everybody has to pass the YR inspection before you have any say here, lol,lol. Why don't you oblige the members with WHO ARE YOU? What have YOU bred that has any credibility? Titles on these dogs you've bred? Any? Can't even find many Elbow/ Hip grades on your superior breedings, dams etc, etc. Nothing but dogs posing in scarves,lol.
        And before your small handful of followers chip in, the biggest percentage of members here DO NOT KNOW YR or anyone else for that matter. But would love to hear from members here who have bought one of YR dogs, worked them, shown them, titled them.....ANYONE????? YR you are a joke pulling people up. People in glass hoses Yellow, what ya think? lol,lol,lol. What's wrong? Did this new member not play ball in PM's, Mrs Puppetmaster???
                                                PRICELESS!!!!!!!!!
        

First of all Hans did not offer to buy the pup  back, he offered to help FIND a buyer.  Secondly OGBS, the ear was a big deal.  Do you not read any of Wades posts before you type? 

As you can see on here though, the general concensus by most (except me and a few others) is the ear will get better, the dog is still young blah blah blah. Maybe Wade heard the same bunk and was giving it time.

I repeat, Wade was upset about the ear, but didn't like the options he had concerning the pup according to the contract, (probably the added expense of return) so he didn't do anything about that.   He said the day he recieved the papers, was the straw that broke the camels back.

Who are we to tell Wade how he should feel?  or how he should react?

Ace,  because they are sending a faulty dog, that is why, and because shipping is friggin' expensive.  So, that is in the contract which is  good that is clear upfront.  All I said was that is a good thing to know in advance, because I for one, would never risk buying a pup from them, too much of a gamble IMHO.

Anyway, everyone reading this mess has their own ideas, we are not changing a thing bickering about it.  The learning has been done.  Wade is done with this thread as am I.

ace, i was not going to post another thing on this but reading your post made me.
you really don't know what you are talking about. you are like jenn ,a hans a-- kisser. that is ok if that is the route you take..
i have a bad temper, yes, bot only when some tries to or screws me in a deal.
when i buy a dog i from a kennel,unless i was told otherwise(europ-sport did) i expect a dog bred by those people and carry proudly their kennel name. not sell adog from someones elses breeding.
 my intent was to breed the dog after he was of age and checked out,hips stc. i wanted the jinipo name. teh kennel name sells dogs.
those of you that don-t breed but buy, always look who is in this breeding.
those of you who say they don't are either lieing or stupid.you pick!
  now that i have to sell my dogs it became more importent.
try to sell a dog with a curled in ear. some of you don't understand that the ear is up but curled to the outside as if a curling iron was put on it.
  ace, i thought hans was an upgfront sort of guy and have stood up strongly for him on several occasions.
when i was looking at the litter i asked hans about it telling him i was interested in one of the jinipo pups from this litter. he did volunteer to help me through this deal as he said they did't speak good english. he had mentioned that before about jeri.
he did tell me i could return the dog at my expense and get another pup. the cost woud not add up .
now i have a pup with a curled ear that i am trying to sale. hans asked me what i was looking to get out of the dog and i told him and he said he would try and sell the dog too.never did he say he would buy the dog back
deb is stating a baldface lie. as i said i am not going to argue with hans over this any more
another fact is you don't have to regerster a dog under fci rules in the bitches name. if you are the breeder, regardless whose in ownership of said bitch. the pups are regerstered in said kennels name as was in this case.
jinipo did not breed this pup, the other kennel did. I WANTED A PUP BRED BY JERI WITH HIS DOGS AND I THOUGHT  I DID.
end of statement. this was to clear thye air, not make enemys.   wade  hatfield   GOOD NIGHT

Wade,

I am sorry that you feel the need to call me a "Han's ass kisser" b/c I don't back you 100%.  I understand that your feelings are hurt and b/c Jenni and myself don't agree with you, you have taken it personal and have in turn decided to attack us.  I will take that and let it go. 

I know you feel that me and others (that don't see this in your favor) don't know what we are talking about and if that is the case then I'm sorry.  I am pulling my information strictly what you have typed in this thread and in the same thread on Hans' forum.  You can check that by seeing what I typed and where I got it from.

I agree, kennel name does get people to look at the dog but right after that, the pedigree is looked at and then finally videos of the pup/dog.  Wouldn't you agree?  Since you reached out to Jiri or Hans, did you specify what kennel name you wanted?  Since Jiri posted the breeding on his site (since he approved and was promoting it) aren't you getting a dog that he said that you should go with after telling him what you wanted (minus the kennel name)?  You mentioned you don't know "who the hell Od Bouensky" is but didn't you look at the sire and dam of the breeding?  When you sent your money did you like the breeding?

Ok he said you could return the dog at your expense and you could get another dog.  That is on par with the warranty on thei

Ibrahimk9 kennel is offerring few workline puppies for sale, the father is olf vom Ibrahimk9 HD/ED normal, SchH3 KKL1 and the mother is Elaf vom Ibrahimk9 HD/ED normal, SChH2 and KKL2, the pups are of good health and show super drives, they are linebred 5-5 on the great Norbo, we can send pictures and videos of each individual, price is great only USD 1200, our guarantee covers all genetic diseases.
Who would buy a pup from my breeding having my beautiful kennel name (watch out for this name as one day I assure you you will be proud your dog carries it) !!!!?

Ibrahim

Ace,  because they are sending a faulty dog, that is why, and because shipping is friggin' expensive. 

You say it like they knew the dog would end up like this?  Had no way of knowing at 8 weeks old.  Yes shipping is expensive.  The dog business is expensive, no new news there.   They never said they would make him send the dog back.  He never provided pictures of the ear as the first time he saw the ear is in this thread in the video.

I agree with OGBS.  Stuff should be figured out offline and not blasting a "friend" on the internet.  Doing that doesn't make anyone work with/help you.

MIA, lol. I would never buy a dog off a website w/zero homework done. When I say ZERO, I am referring to even looking up the dam of the litter! If he'd even looked up the dam, he'd see plain as day that she's not owned by Jinopo. THIS IS THE POINT THAT EVERYONE SEEMS TO MISS. There was no sneaking; this was plain as day for anyone choosing to look. I completely agree w/what RS has posted ON PRINCIPLE. However, in this case, I just don't see where it applies. The puppy was 8 weeks old and no one could've known about the ear at that time, which is why I have never once commented about the ear. I only have commented on the name and the accusations of fraud, and the website refutes that, plain and simple. This is a case of a buyer error, nothing more, nothing less.

And criminy, MIA, Wrangler and Levis? Are you trying to give me nightmares?!

I'm going to end this on a laugh and bid adieu to all of you;-) I have some horses to visit.

jen

wade did tell his friend that he wanted a jip-o-me dog or whatever kennel name they are using this year. you are right, i guess he shouldn't have trusted his friend (a partner in that kennel) to make sure he got a jip-o-me dog and he should have just assumed his friend would send him a dog that he did not ask for. 

ogbs

do you read much?

red sable