Who Do You Trust - Page 13

Jenni, so what are the facts then?  Did you breed a dog who didn't have any sort of health testing, temperament TESTING, or any kind of testing for breedworthiness before breeding?  Or not?  What are the facts - what work does Caleb do?  Where does he do it?  with whom?  Got any video or pictures of him working?  You got x-rays, that's good - and the opinions of people on the PDB to say he's sound for breeding?  No doubt he's sound - as many say including myself - bad hips doesn't mean the dog will be unsound, I too have known severely dysplastic dogs who live normal active lives into their teens.  But they aren't being BRED with bad hips.  Or at least I hope not!

so what are the facts then Jenni?  Did you or did you not breed a dog with no health, temperament or work tests?  Have you ever titled a dog?  Have you ever kept a pup back from your breeding, worked, titled, and health tested it?  If not, why not?  (what are your excuses?)

It is true, people can make their own decisions about who to buy a pup from.  I don't understand why people don't do their research before buying from breeders who do "none of the above" when they breed and sell their pups with "big talk".  It is confusing to me.  But I guess it's just like the people who buy pups from pet stores (re: puppy mills) without much thought for where they came from other than the cute puppy in the window and the sales hype. 

If every single one of your puppy buyers are delighted and all the pups are healthy what competitors say is of no moment.  Get references from previous buyers.   If you think you have a world class dog and your dog thinks the world of you....that is all that really matters in the end!  I love happy endings.  (Chaz, please, don't even think about it)

Hunger4justice...leave Jean out of this...... !!! I mean it... and dont you dare ever accuse me of trying to hurt Jean in any way shape or form... !
I only dissagre with breeding a dog that is less then perfect! These are Jenni's words, not mine.
I am not even bashing Jenni, I just think she should not have bred a dog that has non-passing hips because it is unethical..... If she can do that, she better hold hew typing skills if somebody else does the same thing, because she is one of the first ones to get on a high horse when that happens.
Just like you hunger, you love to get on and start researching to find something on people! Anything to go on a personal vendeta about. I have watched you do that many times!
 

Hunger dont every one of your dogs is a world class? Seriously? you just dont get the point... but oh well....


You need to stop putting words in my mouth .... seriously... you just seem to be all worked up over this and making crap up. You leave Calob's breeder out of this, stop accusing me of some imaginary quests and please calm down woman!

Jenni, you bred Calob a dog that could not pass hips............speaks more than words about you....

<------- shovels more popcorn in mouth. Am I reading the PDB or watching the GOP debates? The parallels are amazing!

Dunno, Carlin. I'm putting together a very intricate train table. Haven't had much time for either.   I have missed a lot of the action on both. 

Martina, please defer to my earlier posts. All your questions have already been answered. How do you know he wouldn't/can't pass hip certs? You don't. Forgive me for not bothering to submit xrays on a dog who was born in 2003 and whose films have been examined by many DVMs and a couple radiologists. As an aside, he actually was injured as a 2 yr.old (the records are at  Sugar Grove Animal Hospital, Arboretum View An. Hosp., and Veterinary Specialty Center, all in IL., and all under my name. Feel free to inquire as to the ACL and other dianostics) which I think is a big contributor to the slight flattening on the left side, commonly seen in cases of atrophy and consequent subluxation. Regardless, not even knowing that, nothing about those hips at that age suggests a genetic defect warranting striking from the gene pool.

As I have always said, breed dogs, not hips, not papers, not titles, not POLITICS! 

...And that's pretty much all I have to say. Anyone who really wants answers need only look at what's already been written. Anyone on a witch hunt will continue on that same path regardless. It's as it should be. ;-)

Nancy at westwood kennels is a good place to purchase and they are honest folks.
my friend got apup from her. he was a son out of her norbo son.
he has been bred so many times to so many bitches and has for the most part help produce some of the best police/per. protection dogs out there.
 i use him and the pups i get and got are SUPER!

Jenni, 
  you dissapointed me... I am not vicious, I am only honest... I x-rayed a 6 year old dog that worked on streets and  I tell you plenty of injuries... the hips looked better than that... oh well you are the one who has to live with that, not me.

Im small breeder , and breed real old czech lines ,only few litters a year , and dont sell dogs that are not from my own breeding , only sometimes help  somebody to find what they are looking for  ,,  and recently moved to czech republik , If I had known that after 5 months of living here the shit would hit the fan about czech breeders and brokers , Id better moved to some other country

Duke... There are nice people out there, very nice! Honest and hard working..... and besides, you like it there!

I do not think it a good idea for a novice with no contacts to buy a dog from a pic or ad on the internet.

When I was looking for a w/l dog, I started with the clubs in my area. It was really surprising the quality of dogs I found and I am in a very remote for sch. clubs. There are very good dogs all over the U.S. owned by people that do not breed often and do not advertise heavily, if at all.

I ended up with a pup from a KKL 1, V rated male (a real world class dog) with the credentials to prove it and a KKL1 female. The breeder was 20 miles from my home and I do not feel I could have done any better anywhere.


jmo,

Rik