Sloping backlines and over angulation - Page 11

I agree Joan, overangulation has no benefit but correct angulation has all the benefit

Ibrahim says; '...I deduct a gsd can cover much more than the 50 miles a wolf does in 24 hours. Hers covers 12 miles in one hour, so it can cover 60 miles in 5 hours and rest in the other 19 hours and laughs at the wolf.'
Ibrahim, I detect sarcasm in your post. But let me remind you, a wolf is covering ground hunting and is not likely having to travel 50 miles at once to find food. Also, sled dogs competing in long distance races such as the Iditarod routinely cover 100 miles a day. When wolves are encountered on the trail, the wolf will out distance the team of sled dogs at a trot. So if you want to assume the wolf or dog is traveling at a given rate without rest, the wolf wins when endurance is considered.

No Joanro, unless we try what a well conditioned GSD can cover in nature you can not just claim a wolf would do better, no, no. How could you claim that? did any one make a study? did anyone actually try it with a healthy well conditione GSD of good angulations, medium size and weight? I don't think anyone did. I own a GSD and I do not know his limits and I assure you most owners don't.

And no sarcasm, with exercise and repetition, a dog like yours may top a wolf, WHY NOT?

I understand that a wolf does not spend the 24 hours trotting, when I said "GSD" can cover 60 miles in 5 hours I was impressing a point through exaggeration (that is common in my own native language).

"No Joanro, unless we try what a well conditioned GSD can cover in nature you can not just claim a wolf would do better, no, no. How could you claim that? did any one make a study? did anyone actually try it with a healthy well conditione GSD of good angulations, medium size and weight? I don't think anyone did. I own a GSD and I do not know his limits and I assure you most owners don't."

It takes motivation, Ibrahim, to have a dog push beyond his limits. That's why sled dogs are bred to have the desire to travel without wavering to 'see what's around' the next bend in the trail. A wolf has the desire to travel. A gsd is bred to be territorial, to 'stay home' if you know what I mean. What would be the gsd's motivation to travel an endless trail? And yes, I would never be so arrogant as to believe any domestic dog can outdo a wild wolf as far as endurance is concerned. That's precisely why the wolf has been crossed with the sled dogs in the north country...endurance and desire to travel an endless trail.

Linda Shaw has made a book with her illustrations and discussion of correct GSD conformation. It was just printed recently, and you can get a copy on her website:

 

http://www.shawlein.com/store/

 

Christine

I will, even though she is not happy with me and my posts and discussions on GSD structure, she is intelligent and widely educated but I could not agree with all her analysis and conclusion, I find myself in more peace with Carbajal. I will get her book, and I am sure it will be worth its price whatever it is

http://iditarod.com/about/trivia-facts/

Ibrahim, here's some Iditarod trivia for you to ponder.

The first Iditarod race to Nome started March 3, 1973.
Broken Records: In 1986, Susan Butcher broke Rick Swenson’s record, set in 1981, by completing the 1049+ miles in 11 days, 15 hours and six minutes, and this was done on the longer ‘Northern’ Route. In 1987 she broke her own record by finishing in 11 days, two hours, five minutes and 13 seconds. Then in 1990 she broke her record again, finishing in 11 days, one hour, 53 minutes, 23 seconds. In 1993, Jeff King broke all previous records, finishing in 10 days, 15 hours, 38 minutes, 15 seconds. In 1994 Martin Buser again set the record in 10 days, 13 hours, 02 minutes, 39 seconds. In 1995, Doug Swingley of Sims, Montana broke two records when he became the first musher from outside of Alaska to win the Iditarod and he did the 1150+ mile course in 9 days, 2 hours, 42 minutes and 19 seconds. In 2002, Martin Buser broke the record when he crossed the finish line in 8 days, 22 hours, 46 minutes and 2 seconds

Ibrahim: not a good idea to try this type speed and duration of miles with a one year old dog. No. I am surprised you would be willing. A one year old is not ready for this type of run. Nan