Please show me your WL gaiting! - Page 11

GSD - they are walking at a VERY FAST SPEED, the handlers were running behind them.

It´s not the collars, it´s anatomy - I don´t like it.

A German Shepherd normally isn´t erected during gaiting, but a lot of people love it.
Dogs like this don´t produce foreward power, you are able to hold the leash with one finger.

By the way, a beautiful female, Sitas ( second picture ).

I hope more people understand the difference in between pacing, trotting and gaiting now - german shepherd style.

AKC speciality GSD shows, the dogs also gait infront of the handler at all different speeds, same as SV.

Thanks Susie, the judge absolutely loved her.

I could have won many shows eith her, but I sold her becasue I wanted a different temperament.

AKC speciality GSD shows, the dogs also gait infront of the handler at all different speeds, same as SV.

But they are never at (what AKC people would call) a walk.  They are always at a trot.  Various speeds, often too fast, but we are always looking for suspension.  The digging in that the SV style goes for is not at all prized in AKC, and dogs are penalized for lack of suspension.

With the way dogs haul into collars at SV shows, I cannot see shoulder opening.  I can not see true follow through in the rear.  I can't see suspension.  The dogs are too restricted.  I CAN see how the topline holds together, since they're straining so hard into the collars, but I'd like to see more than that.

AKC always judges dogs at an open trot.  Some judges will ask for a walk at some point (which is always hilarious in its own right).  Just different styles.

I don't like to critique photos of anyone else's dogs unless they ask. So will only comment generally that IMO some of the dogs pictured in this thread are not balanced or correct movers.  Nothing whatsoever to do with lines, pedigree, owners, collars, leashes, etc. Their fronts and rears just don't come close to matching. Maybe better photos would make them look better, I don't know. At the risk of taking it in the shorts, this is my idea of a balanced mover with correct reach and balanced drive. Yeah, an ASL ...... so shoot me LOL.

Same dog, slightly different sequence - see the difference in the way the shoulder opens.

Blitzen, AKC and SV have different styles of gaiting. Each has their preference.

IMO, for me, I prefer SV only becasue working titles, hip/elbow certifications and breed survey (after 3.5 years) are required for an Adult Male/Female to be shown. Its the whole package, not just a dog gaiting in front of its handler.

How many AKC champions have: real temperament tests, endurance tests (12 miles), tracking, obedience and protection or herding certifications?

A GSD was bred to be a dog that works.

 

Not really, Sitasmom. The first photo shows the dog being gaited at GSDCA National Specialty at the end of the lead almost SV style, the handler is far behind out of the photos. The ring was huge, the dogs were gaited many times. In the second photo the same dog is more restricted by the handler using a shortened lead. I wasn't at that show, but I'm guessing the ring was smaller so the handler had to change the way he presented his dog.  It doesn't really make a big difference, does it or am I missing something?

Hips, elbows, breed surveys really don't have anything to do with the way a dog gaits. That's a separate issue and and topic for another thread don't you think?

But we're not talking about other requirements.  We're simply discussing the act of gaiting and what you can see.  I feel I cannot see as much as I want to, and am always let down until the fast pace.  It's boring for me.  I'd rather have the information I'm looking for sooner instead of later :)

I'd like to add that my bitch and I have recently started herding again (W00T!!!) and the goal is to make her a true dual champion.  Regardless, she will achieve more than her HT PT.  She's stunning on sheep, and surprised me with her mettle and tenacity.

Blitzen, several dogs over here are still able to "open" the shoulder, even today ( your friend Dingo was, too ).
The breeding for dogs with "head up" produces dogs with faulty and short shoulders.
We did always have problems with upperarm and shoulderblade, now breeders are making things worse.
For quite some years they take care for the seize, and for the back now, but produce the next sh.. now.

Humans...