not right kennel?? - Page 11

"What would the damn sense be?" What does that mean? The sense would be breeding good dogs, that's what. You think the whole point is NAMES? Wow, I sure hope you're not breeding, MIA. SHORTSIGHTED? That's what you call people who breed for strong dogs rather than NAMES? WTF?

Edit to add: MIA changed her post. That's why mine doesn't make a lot of sense. She said it made no sense to breed if you weren't breeding for names.

Yeah, Jackie. I saw it. This is a great thread! We have it all; the ignorant hothead who doesn't do his homework and has to keep namecalling and telling ME how stupid I am, and now we have MIA who appears (oh, the irony) and now changes her posts.

You can't look at anything logically w/out being called a name. I'm an ass-kisser, though I've never bought anything from Hans, and I'm "f-ing stupid" and "f-ing nuts" all because I pointed out that the info that he freaked about was plainly on the WEBSITE.

I sure haven't had too many problems selling my "no name" dogs, btw. Hmmmm.

I need some movie-size snacks and I'll be back.

Are you calling me an ignorant hothead?

Wow, I'm pretty sure that's what they wrote on my evals back in police academy lo these many years ago.

  ROLL OVER BEETHOVEN!!


 HANG ON SLOOPY!!!

     HI  WADE    HI  WADE   HI WADE:   We have a new poster  MIA>>> just joined""

    SHE >>HE> know all about   SISTER >BROTHER OOPS LITTERS?

     NOW TONIGHT   the poster (IP KNOWN) is now posting from HANS' Website with the Authourity of   HOW YOU BREED NAMES.....

     JENN< you nailed it:

not right kennel?? by MissinginAction on 30 August 2011 - 01:08	MissinginAction Posts: 4 Joined: Sat Aug 27, 2011 07:05 pm
hi wade,   the name sells and if you need examples you are blind.   to think that if all else titles, health and temperament are the same that a person would buy a lesser know name is ludicrous. open your eyes people and wipe the brown off.

not right kennel?? by MissinginAction on 30 August 2011 - 01:08	MissinginAction Posts: 4 Joined: Sat Aug 27, 2011 07:05 pm
hi wade,   the name sells and if you need examples you are blind.   to think that if all else titles, health and temperament are the same that a person would buy a lesser know name is ludicrous. open your eyes people and wipe the brown off.

lol. you people are seeing ghosts, boo! 

Ghosts of Banned Spirits Past.

From Jinopo's website: Puppies posted on this website are coming either directly from our breeding program or they are litter picked individuals from litters that come from the breeding of our stud dog to a high quality working female not directly owned by Jinopo.CZ. --sorry, couldn't help myself:) Mary

Such a shame...... I have just read the entire thread and at first I was going to say that we just needed to let Hans respond. Now that that has happened, the majority of the posters I somewhat respect even without meeting them. And I do listen to the majority of what they post. Hank, great post as usual! And Sable59, for what it's worth, I'm sorry for the health concerns.
I enjoy for the most part reading from most of you and gathering info, experiences etc., etc.

I'm not here to choose sides or point fingers but to possibly point out either things that seem to be missing or maybe were not put into the conversation. And maybe to ad my .02/opinion/thoughts.

If you were buying an import was video available on puppies from breeding in question?
Papers from Sire/Dam were not available for viewing? i.e. scanned/photocopies.?
Were you solely interested from buying a pup from a specific breeding? And if so, was that not what happened?

I can't comment on how things are dealed/arrange in European countries but it appeared Ace new what he was talking about.

Unfortunately, we (some) only know of the situation by what is written here. Both parties involved are breeders, knowledgeable breeders. I would think both are familiar with contracts and such. I could even say between the two, even between friends, there are times things are ? missed, taken for granted, believed to be known? and the list goes on. Maybe that is the case here? Also, stress, health concerns..... maybe one missed something or overlooked something. Who really knows? I hope there is a remedy that satisfies all involved.

As for buying imports........ Even as a novice I'm going to RESEARCH the hell out of the prospect. My money is too important to me to take a hit in any way. But I'm more than satisfied with what I know, see or hear that comes from right here in the US of A. Not saying that the imports are or are not better, in my eyes. When I have the money where a negative hit/experience doesn't wipe my finances out then I might take that gamble of sorts. But like someone stated on a different thread. The offspring coming from the imports are here in the states.................  

I'm a little torn about the hype over the name of the kennel though? Reselling the pup that was just bought? If this is a/the pup from the breeding you wanted then you have that. And (could be wrong) if you are saying the name makes the dog then I would think you as a breeder knows differently. And as everyone is always stating..... Puppies are a crap shoot just having titled parents/reputable breeder/kennels stack the odds a little better on your behalf.

In closing, I hope all concerned come up with a solution that all is happy with. And I hope we all know the outcome; good or bad. And in turn that will help someone else down the road when buying a dog or even an import dog. I have not witnessed the "before" antics of Sable59 but maybe his health issues contributed, (just a little) to this one. Again, i am sorry you have to, (or already have) sold your dogs.  

Jackie, LOL! No, I wasn't, but if the shoe fits...............ROFL!

Alboe, good post. Very RATIONAL. Gosh, I love rational people.

if you peeps think names do not sell than you are lost. quality counts and that goes back to lines(names). and jen without those great ddr lines(names) you would not be selling dogs. those lines(names) have helped you sell and if you think not, than you give yourself way to much credit. so, than z. PS  meant nothing or any other great lines(names)? names are not the be all, end all, but they are very important. tell google, gm, apple, coke, pepsi and microsoft that names mean nothing. marketing 101.

wade, i wish you the best and hope your health improves.