Panda Shepherd(what do you think?) - Page 11

I agree Devora.
this is a new breed compared to how long some other breeds have been around.
with the amount of inbreeding that has went on,  it was just a matter of time before we started seeing different colors pop up in litters.   I would really like to see inbreeding COI on some of the dogs today,  you go back 10-12 generations and the same dogs show up a dozen times on the pedigree.

Sorry, but I have to ask. Have some of you even read the GSD Standard.

Devora, I'm an old timer also. When ever was a quality black/red ever not accepted. I would be very interested to see some of your dogs.

And I do not mean any disrespect. The black must always be "just a little better", but I have not seen quality blacks rejected in the U.S.

Can you provide some pics of your dogs.

Best,

Rik

I can see how a really red dog could cause a stir in the 60's.  maybe someone can correct me,  but weren't alot of american dogs in the 60's light tans, really light sables ect?  like the old rin tin tin movies?

didn't the red color trend start with the Martin brothers, especially with their L litter?  I have been told and read that they are responisble for bringing about the rich red seen today with the WG showlines.

Rik, being an abusive asshole doesn't make you any more credible. 


The Panda GERMAN SHEPHERD is simply a different colored german shepherd.  The breed standard should never be so rigid as to be a detriment to the breed.  In sme contries whites have already been eliminated - a big mistake, IMO.  My view is that the standard for color needs to be and should be relaxed because the BREED needs as much genetic diversity as it can muster. 

The breed standard was made for the dog, not the other way round, and it HAS changed over the years.  The breed standard should be reflective of SCIENCE that teaches us that the greater genetic diversity, the more ROBUST and healthy the breed can become.  With the vastly greater genetic knowledge that we have today - with the science as advanced as it is, we KNOW that color has no bearing on the dog's health.  We also know that breeding OUT colors reduces the gene pool., possible reducing positive genetic material as well.    The genetic health information I have been able to see thus far, shows white shepherds slightly less prone to some of the diseases of colored shepherds.  No one knows whether or not a Panda Shepherd might also carry a gene that reduces cancer or HD.  The banning of colors is throwing the baby our with bath water. 

ERGO, it pisses me off no end to see these arrogant ignorant pricks like Rik whose head is so far stuffed up the ass of the current breed standard for color  that it reaks of fanaticism at the cost of the health if the breed.  My gawd, it seems he should be  freaking goosestepping with one  hand up in the air, clearly willfully blind to the science that could really benefit the health and welfare of the breed overall in their vociferous attacks against something as superficial as color.  

Drunk, schmunk - an asshole is an asshole.  

 

Deutscher Schäferhund  translates into German Shepherd Dog.  A GSD is a working dog.  You either breed for working characteristics or appearance.  The breed standard is there to protect the integrity of the working line.  In my experience, dogs with speckled coats are full of faulty DNA.  I don't like the looks of the these dogs and I would not even consider owning one.  As for me and my house I will stick with black and tan or black. 

If I were a breeder and a pup came out speckled like this I would fix it and sell it as a pet.

well, got to respect that gsd justice.  at least you said you would fix the puppy and find it a home, not kill it for being born the wrong color

As the proud owner of a registered, DNA certified purebred Panda GSD, I can assure you these are wonderful, carefully bred dogs.  My dog has clear hips and eyes, and a character you can't beat.  He doesn't have the wobbly sloping hips that are so popular today, or the nervous disposition one often sees.  He loves everyone and wouldn't blink if a bomb went off.  I've owned many dogs in my life, but none that comes close to this dog in personality.  His breeder is an honest  and supportive breeder who takes the quality of her dogs seriously.   She even went so far as to deliver my puppy from where she lives in Ohio to me, in Canada.  I know to some my Maverick is a genetic disaster, but I wouldn't trade him for Rin Tin Tin

would you please post more pictures of your boy, Panda's Mom?

Panda Mom,

I believe he isa GERMAN SHEPHERD with a faulty coat color.  Simple as that.  And, GSD's that have faullts such as that should not be bred. He is not a separate breed and I don't  think that a Panda colored shepherd should be made it's own breed!  Because it is not a different BREED.  It is stilla GSD with a faulty coat.  Period.  End of story.

Jen