tom vant leefdaalhof - Page 10

No Eros is no longer Breeding he is 13 years old now as is his brother Ellute. I saw Eros around last November and he looked very well.
He has been a great dog in his time a great Champion not only on the Sport Field but as a Producer, Many of his Progeny are working at top level over here yet he did not ever father so many Pups compared to Ellute.
A pity you did not bring this up a week ago as i was talking to Ronny his owner Trainer only last Sunday at the Belgian National Championships I could have asked him what he thought about your question, But for me Eros is the best of the two brothers.
Steve1

Here is a grandaughter that you can buy.

I wonder why they are selling her at 2..she has a wonderful combination of lines on both sides...a GREAT combination, I would say.  Hmmmm.

hungerforjustice
If you look back on page 3 and look at the Pedigree of Hektor you will see his Pedigree and the one you are refering to which is up for sale are very similar
Steve1

I like the  dog named BRUNO out of that combination...

  nice attention and pigment..do not know who is the owner or any thing about the work

  but the picture got my attention..

   http://www.pedigreedatabase.com/german_shepherd_dog/dog.html?id=698621

YR

but why Eros better ? Because he threw some great dogs with not as many breedings as Ellute ? Ya i would like to hear Ronny,s take on the Question. An excellent thread to see some great Tom progeny pop up and see where some of them are at. Didnt Ronny win 3 diff world championships with 3 differant dogs?

Ronny won the world Championships with 3 dogs but 4 times world Champion, first with TOM then with EROS two times, who is a son of Tom , then with COMO 2010 who is son of EROS,
ORRY who is G Father of TOM won the World Title 2 times.
Steve1

Note, EROS also won the National Belgian Championship 4 times
2003
2004
2005
2006
 

Steve, I did notice that Hektor and the female have similar lines and that would make me wonder why sell her at age 2....That is a dog I would love to have.  If I already had her, I would never be parting with her at age 2.  (Not criticizing, just wondering) You know I love that Tom, Eros, Como line...You can't argue with success and given the other Tom son, Griff (RIP) and his never quit courage, which you say is also in the Eros lines, you are very lucky to have Hektor and whomever gets that female is also very lucky.

Nice lines, no question. The only thing I don't like is that they're very washed out. I'd love to see someone be able to keep killer structure and nice pigment in those lines. Maybe they kept that female to sell at 2, started, figuring they'd get more money for her? She looks like a nicely-built dog, too.

jenni78
Hektor is a real handful now at less than 4 months old. We have stopped him working with the sack after just two weeks, He simply will not release it at this time Jaws clamped tight.
Now if you hurt a little Pup of that age as his mouth is tender that could well put him off, not saying it will but you cannot go handling the mouth each time to extract the item better to leave it all alone until he grows a bit and his mouth has toughened up.
Regards the colour of the female advertised she is not a very dark in colour. However litter mates of Hektor are very dark indeed, and Hektor is getting darker by the day, look in on here tomorrow and i will post a pic of him now at less than 4 months old, You can see how much he has changed, However he has what it takes to do the job he is wanted for going on the way he is now, I do not think i will be disappointed as he matures.
Steve1