Freaks now in the UK - Page 10

That's a lot of the problem, Bazza. The breed could be turned into something else within 20 years if fad-breeders have their way. I personally don't want it to turn into anything else; I have GSDs because I like GSDs. All anybody has to do is look to the American showlines in the 1980s if they don't believe the breed can be wrecked--the breed suffered because of it. A fad is a quick thing to start but the real deal takes time and work, and so many people don't want to work at it and actually contribute to the betterment of the breed. They just want to get rich quick. Of course, that is WHY there is a standard--to prevent fad changes.

That puppy above DOES have a nice head. 

I do not have time at the moment to fully read whats as been put since last night will catch up when I arrive home from the dog club, been at work all day some of us on here earn our money by employment, not breeding crossbreeds and using them as cashcows.

My apologies Melissa I did not realise you had a disability, I see you have some problem with the higher functioning areas of the brain as you do not fully read my post and obviously lack capacity in some areas., I have never taken anything from your website infact the only page I looked at was the one with the collie cross pups.

Still awaiting answers to ALL my questions or maybe you would like me to repeat them.

I just want to make it clear I am not defending any breeder of these colors,  just the colors them selves.

everyone knows a standard can be changed because of current fads, ect.  wasn't recent talk at the SV about raising the height restrictions on males at the world sieger show because most males being shown were not within standard size, but oversized?  how many times has the SV standard been revised to suit what was currently in the ring? 

everything changes with time, proof is the once faulted and looked down upon longcoat which just received SV recognition to have its own classes for conformation.  how many on here bashed LC breeders cause they bred faults.  now they are allowed to be shown,  so what now?

To VomMarischal
Say no more three probably healthy pups put to death in the name of breed standard never read the KC's General code of ethics then???? paragraph 3 !!!!!!Will agree that no healthy puppy will be culled.Puppies which may not conform to the breed standard should be placed in suitable homes !!!!!!! Cant see where it says kill them off instead of giving them to a good home if they are the wrong colour
So I would keep that quiet if I were you as you can be expelled from the KC for that alone and quote
Be reported to the relevant authorities for legal action as appropriate Oh and if you can't stand reactions to your posts then don't post simple huh I found nothing abusive in Uberlands reply to your posts
Or were you expecting like Wildmoor that everyone should agree with what you say ,this after all is a Forum, meaning everything is open for debate, it doesn't mean everyone has the same opinion (got it ???) now DEBATE
As I have already said Hypocrites Childish remarks about Huskies and Collies simply in the name of breed standard which in this day and age is a farce anyway, so long as the dogs are breed for temprement and with a care to keep out all genetic problems like skin complaints HD epilepsy  etc etc then one GSD is as good as another CHAMPION OR NOTor do you believe we should all have been born with blue eyes and Blonde Hair also
And if every breeder only  had a litter of pups for the ring then there would  be no pet dogs
Neuter and spay if need be to keep the increasing number of unwanted pets down, but to kill a perfectly healthy animal in the name of no more than colour requirements is shamefull and I am sure it happens all the time

No laws like that where VomMarischal lives Saratoga. You should get your facts straight before you start gasping for air because "culls" were humanely culled. Nothing illegal in that here.
In fact pet shelters here euthanize thousands of pets, spayed, neutered, unwanted, whatever, every single day because there are not enough homes. I might not like that puppies had to be euthanized but there IS a reason for culling.
More breeders do it than you think, but it's kept secret, not because of laws, but because people go into heart failure at the thought of a puppy being euthanized. How do you know that the white puppies were "perfectly healthy"? You don't, plain and simple. Why take the chance and wait for problems to devolp later?
I have gotten into this debate before about humanely euthanizing seriously faulted puppies (culls) and was thought of as a monster. So be it. I'm not breeding anyway, so maybe that will help you sleep better at night.
If the time comes that I breed a litter and end up off colors, or obvious defects, maybe I will euthanize, maybe I will alter it and place it in a pet home. It all depends on several factors which I won't bore you with. Good day!
Stacy

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Ok so no laws but it does not make it right never mind what country you live in a true animal lover would do what they could to re home but as all that matters is the breed standard then I guess its ok to do what ever you want
I am fully aware of the problems over overcrowded refuges in the States Germany and infact in many countries including the UK and Australia
All the more reason to educate owners and breeders alike in the right way to do things in order to keep the numbers down Just a lot better for all concerned, education is far better than just killing off pups that have no fault other than colour 
Of course if any animal suffers from a life threatening deformity from which it is suffering pain  then yes its far better to end its life humanely
I do not class myself as some soft hearted animal activist who uses any excuse to do whatever they think right in the name of defenseless animals, but in the same instance I cannot condone willful slaughter when the animal in question has nothing wrong other than being born with a colour fault, as it is being referd to  in its own particular breed
And yes it is nice to think that a breed should be forever as it started, be it breed that way or happening through chance but the stupid comments about not being a true GSD if is a different colour other than black and tan is just that stupid
There is no Huskie or Collie involved and yes maybe the dogs that have been mentioned on here are not to everyones taste but if we all liked excactly the same things would it be a very boring world
I cannot  see any harm in having a white german shepherd or a Liver, Blue, Sable or any other variation, these dogs pose no threat if they are healthy and do not compete against Black & Tans in most instances, it is purely when a group of people think they have the right to rubbish anyone not breeding the same type that problems start
If they are not directly affected by another variation then what does it matter

A  true lover of the breed would ensure that unwanted traits especially tons of white, are not perpetuated and may rehome it, on this we agree. Some people would rather euthanize it, since there are so many homeless GSDs and other breeds waiting for good homes.
As I said., I am not quite sure what I would do, if it was a "color" issue. I suppose if I could find a suitable pet home and alter the dog before it left my kennel, I would much rather place it in a home. VM had an agreement with the stud owner and had to follow through with it.