Non DDR bloodline that breed the DDR structure or similar - Page 1

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by xPyrotechnic on 14 March 2020 - 14:03

Can someone recommend me some dogs or breeders that breed or have this structure for example: http://www.pedigreedatabase.com/german_shepherd_dog/dog.html?id=2933538-kathaleya-daniel-bohemia


by NatureDragon on 14 March 2020 - 16:03

Good taste! I love her head, I like a more 'masculine' head on a dam, not the snipy ones that resemble the american show line gsd's.
I'm sure someone on here can help you find what you are looking for, people are on here regularly that have good knowledge of GSD pedigrees and all types, from working to show.

by duke1965 on 14 March 2020 - 16:03

several people do, also I have them, the question is, what else would you want in the package to come with the looks ??

TIG

by TIG on 14 March 2020 - 19:03

Look for linebreeding on the T litter von Milinda or Troll Milinda's son Ajax

http://www.pedigreedatabase.com/german_shepherd_dog/dog.html?id=444825-ajax-vom-rohnsaler-bach

Both offer great working ability and the look I think you want


emoryg

by emoryg on 15 March 2020 - 06:03

Over the years I have seen some impressive looking females (and males) from that bitch’s 3rd generation bottom side through vom Cap Arkona. Some really good working dogs came from that line. Not sure if it’s still an active kennel.

by xPyrotechnic on 15 March 2020 - 08:03

im not looking to buy i want to create a potential kennel to see how many dog will it take to potentially create the desired traits and structure of the dogs so far these are all the dogs that i have in mind.

http://www.pedigreedatabase.com/german_shepherd_dog/breeding.result?father=2716064&mother=2776423

http://www.pedigreedatabase.com/german_shepherd_dog/breeding.result?father=1879939&mother=2545195

Then i will be breeding the progeny of these breedings together, then afterwards i would need to outcross becuase it will be too much linebreeding,the outcross needs to be primirily based on prey drive meaning haveing a lot more prey drive than defence.

http://www.pedigreedatabase.com/german_shepherd_dog/breeding.result?father=2819657&mother=2933538

The outcome of this will be my foundation stock, im looking to create dogs that are balanced or slighly more defence based with a good level of civil agression they cannot be petted by adult strangers, must have stable nerves and fight drive . I will be looking to create police dogs specifically for street patrol, border patrol and property and personal protection. No handler aggression but stubborn in training i would want them to be mature quite early in age at 1 year and 4 months.

Would this be enough or will i need more selected breedings to get what im looking for?

by ValK on 15 March 2020 - 14:03

 xPyrotechnic
you should describe what you consider to be DDR structure in the dog.
there are plenty of breeder who claim to be "DDR breeders" but their dogs not even close in their appearance to typical past DDR type.
secondly i don't think you will find "non DDR bloodline that breed the DDR structure", because seems no breeders who intentionaly has such goal in their breeding, albeit from time to time accidently some matting of dogs with no or very distant DDR ancestry does produce dogs, who very much resamble DDR structure.
here is one example.
this bitch had some DDR in far back but so miniscule, that perhaps shouldn't count as ones, who had any significant influence onto her appearance. in 7-th gen among 130 dogs, DDR dogs appear only  15 times, with some of them twice. but she has this typical DDR looks.

http://www.pedigreedatabase.com/german_shepherd_dog/dog.html?id=1936187-buraj-aleksandrovskaj-znatj


by xPyrotechnic on 15 March 2020 - 15:03

im not saying im looking for breeders who breed the structure of the DDR but something similar like the female i posted, big bones nice head dont know how big she is but looking at the sire and dam she would be most likely medium sized. What i consider to be ddr in structure is size they must be bare minimum medium sized dogs ideally they need to be large but not too large and in terms of length they need to be medium sized as well with good angulation of the hind quarter and the front legs must be sufficiently high


by ValK on 15 March 2020 - 15:03

Kathaleya seems like has nice proportional structure with decent head and bones, albeit not as sturdy as one in pic above and according to the last picture in her gallery seems like in size she tend to be quite smaller.
nevertheless, i guess if her mating partner have sturdy build with significantly bigger body constitution, there would be very decent offspring.

emoryg

by emoryg on 15 March 2020 - 16:03

Pyro, The people who work with these dogs care nothing about their dog's looks, except that he looks healthy. Occasionally you may find someone who wants a designer dog, but for the great majority, they just want it to work.





 


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