by xoxogsd on 01 March 2020 - 23:03
My 6 month working line GS pup has severe down pasterns. We didn’t really notice it until he was around 3 months old. We always thought he just had big paws but we were wrong. One of my Schutzhund club members pointed it out at first and he told us to go see an ortho specialist right away. (The club member that pointed it out is a working line GSD breeder and he knows this to be primarily genetic) We were so scared and worried.
We went to the Ortho specialist and she said it could be carpal laxity or carpal subluxation, but that he definitely has down pasterns, not weak pasterns. She believes it to be due to his genetics after I showed her baby pictures of our boy less than 24 hrs of having him, which shows his pasterns to be weak. She believes this is something he was born with.
We got x-rays done as well and nothing was wrong with his pastern area. He has never had an injury before, never had worms either, so we have no idea why he has down pasterns. The specialist was also worried about his elbows as he showed pain during range of motion. X-rays of his elbows were taken but no signs of dysplasia. However, she was still worried about his elbows and said it is likely that his down pasterns are impacting his elbows. She said our boy has a high risk of early arthritis and can impact other parts of his body; like how it is impacting his elbows.
After doing tons of research and talking to others with knowledge on this defect, we were recommended we change his diet to a lower protein food (21-23%), although it was still low before. No improvements. We give him daily supplements as well including, whole food Vit C sources, pure MSM powder, homemade bone broth, glucosamine etc. He gets plenty of exercise as well, including walks, free roaming on a long leash and hikes. He is not allowed to jump, run or go up/down the stairs. His movements are always on soft surfaces, such as grass, mud, dirt and sand. We do not allow him to walk on man-made surfaces.
We feel like we have done and tried everything to get his pasterns to go up, and we are losing hope. Almost all the people I have talked to believe it to be primarily genetic but I have not met our boy’s parents, only pictures. We have talked to the breeder who says it’s never been in her lines. We love our boy so much and it is just so so heart breaking to see him with this defect. We just really want to continue Schutzhund training because that was our plan with our boy but we’re not sure he would even be able to continue with his pasterns in that condition.
Please, if anyone here has any experience with this whatsoever, I would like to hear what you did about it and what your results were. At this point, having him just be able to play normally and do regular dog things without restrictions is my goal.
ALSO, how do I post pictures on here? I can't seem to add the photos.
Thank you so much for reading!
by bantam7 on 02 March 2020 - 01:03
To add photos click the "Enable Editor" button while writing a post and hit the "image" icon.
I have no personal experience with this issue but I recall Fred Lanting having a regimen he's had success with. You can email him at email@example.com.
by jillmissal on 02 March 2020 - 09:03
Vitamin C, "bone broth" etc. all pointless, sorry.
That said, he's a 6 month old puppy and he does need to jump, run, and go up and down stairs to develop musculature properly. I don't know where this whole "keep puppy in a bubble for two years" thing started but it's way more harmful to a dog's development than normal puppy and young dog running and playing. Let him have fun and develop some strength- that's possibly the best thing you could possibly do for him.
by old shatterhand on 02 March 2020 - 11:03
by Rik on 02 March 2020 - 12:03
lower protein may help, I knew one guy that built a run filled with sand to provide low impact surface and strengthen pasterns.
it's a heart breaker to see. I really don't think any of the "miracle" cures that were offered back then (of course by breeders who never had this in their line} ever worked.
they will improve some or they won't. I know that's not what you are hoping to hear, but that is pretty much what I have seen. and I have seen it pretty up close.
by Hundmutter on 02 March 2020 - 13:03
by Rik on 02 March 2020 - 17:03
article by Fred Lanting on the subject.
also a previous PDB thread
by xoxogsd on 03 March 2020 - 22:03