Can you have a balanced drive mix mal - Page 1

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by xPyrotechnic on 24 October 2019 - 13:10

Do you think it would be a good idea to train a mix mal to have balanced drive or breed mix mals to have balanced drives?

by Hired Dog on 24 October 2019 - 13:10

Drives are genetic, you cannot train them. You can enhance, manage or if you are a very good trainer, to hide certain faults in drives, but, they are there when a puppy is born.
Next, what is your reason for wanting to breed Malinois X? What kind of breeding experience do you have, do you know how to select for proper dogs to mate, what will you do with the puppies that are born?
If you breed Malinois X, you will most likely have no idea what will be produced so far as temperament or drives. What do YOU call balanced drive?
It takes many years of looking/working different dogs to determine what dog offers what, based on past breeding and offspring, as well as what will be the best dog to breed with to possibly give you what you want.
Koots

by Koots on 24 October 2019 - 13:10

You can't train something that is not innately within the dog. Drives are innate, they either have them or not. You can mask and make up for lack of drive through training, but it is only a 'workaround' and not a fix for a genetic issue.

by xPyrotechnic on 24 October 2019 - 13:10

I am not breeding dogs lol i don't even own one this is all for research for when i do start breeding. I intend to breed for LE i do know how to select the right pups for LE but i still need to learn to differentiate play drive from a real hard dog who wants to bite the decoy for real not the sleeve. For me a balanced drive is a dog who is calm clear headed they can do both personal protection border patrol which you need defence drive but they can also chase down suspect etc.. which requires prey drive.

I have heard of an instance when a trainer had a dog who had a really high prey drive and he focused on defence drive training reducing the prey drive of the dog and increasing the defence drive is this possible.

BlackMalinois

by BlackMalinois on 24 October 2019 - 13:10


Is this post a joke or serious???

 

What other members  mentioned  here you can,t change genetics .

a High driven X mali will always be high driven

A dog with no natural defense always  sucks in  natural defense . I,m not talking about sport protection defense 

A dog who isn,t sharp enough  will never be a shark   etc  etc  etc

 

 

by xPyrotechnic on 24 October 2019 - 13:10

serious i do want to learn, is there a problem in what i said?

by xPyrotechnic on 24 October 2019 - 13:10

if im wrong then tell me what im wrong about so i can learn from my mistakes

by duke1965 on 24 October 2019 - 13:10

you can only work with what is geneticly already present, so if there is no defence, you can not train it in,, 

if you want all that you state in a dog, I would search for a good GSD, instead of a (mix)malWink Smile


by apple on 24 October 2019 - 14:10

Good Mal X's are typically very high in prey and hunt drive. They also tend to have a higher threshold for defense than a GSD. The best dogs, IMO have extreme prey, strong forward aggression and a degree of dominance. Some of the super hard, extreme Mal X's are not fun dogs to train. This type of dog is becoming less common, but part of the reason is that police departments don't want the more serious dogs because they don't have handlers with the talent to train them. BM can tell you the deal better than me because he is in the thick of it. The other thing is that you really need a great decoy and if you are in the US, there is a boat load of crap training.

by jillmissal on 27 October 2019 - 17:10

If you've no experience with mals and police dogs please, please don't try to breed police dogs.
Please don't breed mixed breeds ever.

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