by emoryg on 27 September 2019 - 11:09
Here is a more detailed explanation on rage and idiopathic aggression. Scroll down to page 240.
by K9L1 on 27 September 2019 - 13:09
There are some dogs especially males , the way how they carry themselves ( movement, boy and face) that elicit fear in more than the average person. The attitude of the dog is “ I own this place “ . The dog seem to be aware of the fear in the person but he does not necessarily act aggressively but seem to enjoy keeping things this way. Is this a remnant of herding instinct?
in other words the dog is able to exert and maintain control by not having to more than eliciting fear in others. Anyone seen this behavior before? I have seen it in a male that came out of strong herding lines.
by apple on 27 September 2019 - 13:09
by duke1965 on 27 September 2019 - 13:09
by K9L1 on 27 September 2019 - 14:09
Duke just using language to explain what I perceived. The dog appears to have figured out that it can maintain its position by not having to be actually aggressive . But there is a certainty that if s person should make the wrong move in the dog’s presence , the dog will definitely act aggressively.
by apple on 27 September 2019 - 14:09
by emoryg on 27 September 2019 - 14:09
Exploiting the herding instinct will make it more noticeable.
Reckless behaviors can be a smart dog making a dumb mistake. Or a dumb dog just making another mistake. Its hard to define since you can't pinpoint what was going through the dog's mind when the behavior was displayed.
by ValK on 27 September 2019 - 15:09
whats the difference Valk?
seems different people have different perceptions of recklessness.
obstacles on dog's way to target and dog's ability to pass them, more related to dog's selfconfidence. the dog could be not the bravest fighter but excelent tracker and nothing can stop that dog in task to find target. could that dog be classified as reckless?
rough, impulsive, reactive, etc. on constant base dog in interacting with humans, other animals or even things, perhaps can fall under reckless classification but i see it more like weak, unstable temperament.
calm, mainly indiferent dog, triged by certain circumstance instantly can switch into mode of furious fighter but not necesarily be classified as a reckless fighter.
i apply classification "reckless dog" on base of dog's state of mind in certain critical circumstances. not sure if i will be able to clearly explain but i will try.
you see, 99.99% even most brave dogs, when facing threat from superior opponent, do have second thought, doubt. in the short period between appearance of threat and the moment of actual physical contact, there are assessment, evaluation of odds for surviving.
dogs, who in 00.01% don't do that. they just go in fight irregardless of size, fury and quantity of opponents. this type truly very rare. we used to call that type of dog "hussar".
as for "dog, inflicting the fear", it's has place to be and related to dominant nature of dog. but this is not like that dog doing this intentionally. it's rather an inintentional visual manifestation of dog's extraordinary selfconfidence and selfsuficiency.
people, particularly ones who's used to two forms of dog's attitude - unfriendly aggressive or friendly affection but not experienced in dealing with such type, do not know what expect from such dog and instinctively do feel fear. there aren't dog's guilt in such human's perception.
by K9L1 on 27 September 2019 - 15:09
About humanizing dogs.
Even young babies have already figured out they can control the mother’s response by crying . Why is it difficult to agree that an adult dog can figure out that he can maintain control by minimum effort . After all the human brain is built on a template of the reptilian and mammalian brains.
by GK1 on 27 September 2019 - 15:09
(Valk)…you see, 99.99% even most brave dogs, when facing threat from superior opponent, do have second thought, doubt. in the short period between appearance of threat and the moment of actual physical contact, there are assessment, evaluation of odds for surviving. dogs, who in 00.01% don't do that. they just go in fight irregardless of size, fury and quantity of opponents. this type truly very rare. we used to call that type of dog "hussar".
At the expense of humanizing canine drives for the sake of discussion, are “hussar dogs” mostly born or made? Or both to some degree? Seems high prey/hunt traits (somehow displayed in so-called recklessness) could be sustained in a given line with fair consistency. But theoretically would “hussar drive” be more elusive since it is an unnatural, counter-productive to survival trait?