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by Bear414 on 05 August 2019 - 20:08

Hello. Was hoping someone could tell me what bloodlines are in this pedigree. All Czech? Also please provide an overall opinion on the pedigree. Thanks.

[http://www.pedigreedatabase.com/german_shepherd_dog/dog.html?id=2816739-shadow-titanium-blade-ackland]Shadow Titanium Blade Ackland

TIG

by TIG on 05 August 2019 - 22:08

http://www.pedigreedatabase.com/german_shepherd_dog/dog.html?id=2816739-shadow-titanium-blade-ackland

There you go. For future reference Hit edit or look for chain symbol & hit it then paste link in box that appears.

For some reason comes up as a blocked page. I'll try one other thing but you may have to contact one of the moderators.

TIG

by TIG on 05 August 2019 - 22:08

Let's try this 

http://www.pedigreedatabase.com/german_shepherd_dog/dog.html?id=2816739-shadow-titanium-blade-ackland&p=simplechart&d=6

Sire is cross of classic West German Working (WGW) lines to Czech.

Dam from what can be seen is a product of back yard breeding with no discernable plan or reason and very little in the way of health clearances. If you go back far enough you will find the odd Czech or WGW dog but it means nothing since the overall force of this side of the pedigree is a Mish mash.

Is he your first GSD?  Handsome boy. Take him out and enjoy him and learn from him. Find what he's good at and enjoys. There is a huge # of choices - obedience (USCA,AKC,UKC,ASCA), tracking (ditto), Schutzhund (USCA, DVG), herding (my favorite AHBA, USCA HGH, AKC, ASCA BC),Search & Rescue, Scent discrimination, dock diving, barn hunt, agility, trick dog etc etc. 

Plus don't forget to have just plain old good fun. Mine have always loved hide & seek, fetching, retrieving on land and in water.

Good luck and good times.

by Bear414 on 05 August 2019 - 23:08

Not mine.  Was curious what type of pups he would have. 


TIG

by TIG on 06 August 2019 - 00:08

Imho no matter how stunning his acomplishments - which we have no record of - this is NOT a breeding animal. Why would you speculate on what he could produce???

At best it would be an absolute crapshoot.

by Bear414 on 06 August 2019 - 02:08

delta von Avalik

by delta von Avalik on 06 August 2019 - 03:08

Cody is not Czech at all, he is almost all german working line (very good german lines at that) and a tiny, tiny bit of slovak lines down on the mother's side. He's a much nicer pedigree than the first dog's pedigree you posted. I also agree with TIG, the first male is not breeding quality in my opinion.

by Bear414 on 06 August 2019 - 03:08

West German working lines?

Sunsilver

by Sunsilver on 06 August 2019 - 03:08

Since 1990, when the Berlin Wall fell in 1990, there has been only ONE Germany, and one German GSD registry, the S.V.

However, if you go back far enough, there are some East German (D.D.R.) dogs in the pedigree.

You can tell by the registration number prefix: sz - S.V., East German - DDR. A number of the dogs on the dam's side are SUCHNO, which I think is Hungary.

Not familiar with some of the other registry abbreviations.

Hundmutter

by Hundmutter on 06 August 2019 - 07:08

Yes, there are WEST German 'working lines' - several kennels in Germany - no matter whereabouts geographically located within that country - still strive to breed dogs with pronounced working suitability, thus concentrating less on the glamour of dogs for the Shows and formal IPO (SchH), and more on e.g. herding capabilities and qualification. It is dogs of this lineage that are referred to as "WGWL".

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