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by ValK on 14 January 2018 - 06:01

i just love that dog. perhaps most smartest dog, i ever have seen.

 


mrdarcy (admin)

by mrdarcy on 14 January 2018 - 10:01

Not sure about smartest, lol, bravest? most stupid? who knows but definitely the luckiest, lol. Those lions must have been recently fed, tame, or having an off day.....thankfully for the dog!!
Hundmutter

by Hundmutter on 14 January 2018 - 13:01

Captive lions, dog raised with them since they were kits; anyone seriously think this lame dog would go anywhere near lions she wasn't sure about ?
Koots

by Koots on 14 January 2018 - 18:01

Exemplifies the adage " The best defence is a good offence", lol.

The lions look as if they are saying "WTF, what's your problem?".


by ValK on 14 January 2018 - 20:01

mrdarcy, ofcourse lions not in the hunt mood.

Hundmutter, c'mon! captive lions in savanna?

Koots, you're closest in reading dog's action correctly.

 

 

obvious dog and lions isn't buddies. dog noticed lions only after their movement and after resolving the issue just walk away.

dog very well/correctly assesses lions and her own capabilities.

a. she is limping and cannot outrun them anyway, thus not even tried.

b. upon retreat lions immediately try to pursue her. curiosity, which can switch to hunt instinct if dog will try to run away?

c. after active dog's defense, lions back off. light bites isn't something to trigger defense responce from lions but enough to show willingness to actively protect her own life. unlike humans, an animals kills only when absolute necessity arise.

 

dog is definately smart way above average.

 

everyone in here have a dog. now, knowing your dog, try to place your dog in place of dog in video and honestly, for yourselves, figure out - how your dog will act in this situation :)

by ValK on 14 January 2018 - 20:01

another interesting video, this time from the past.
Royal Air Force K9 unit at Netheravon, Wiltshire air base back in 1962.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0htf33ww9SU


Hundmutter

by Hundmutter on 14 January 2018 - 20:01

Val, its some kind of zoo-park. Look behind the lions, there are hedges between them and the gnus and zebra in the background. Domestic dog, just wandering about savanah ? Savanah with hedgerows ? I remember seeing some magazine article on this, & there is probably video available if we can track it down. Dog is almost a mother to these lions - do they look as though they are trying to kill her ? If not to eat, (they are no doubt regularly fed) then to dispose of an irritant - wild lions DO do that.  She did turn her back on them at one point and run off a little, they made no move to chase her and she then returns.  And you cannot say what you did about the start of the encounter - dog clearly approaches out of shot and lions react to her arrival, my guess, not dog reacting to lions' moving.

 

PS your 2nd video has not embedded, can't watch it.  Ah hang on, somebody just corrected that.

Hundmutter

by Hundmutter on 14 January 2018 - 20:01

Val if you liked that demonstration, google "Essex Dog Training Team", they have a lot of these routines. I have seen many (Essex DTC / Police / RAF etc dog teams) over the years here; always impressive !

Sunsilver

by Sunsilver on 14 January 2018 - 21:01

The guy who runs Jungle Cat World in Ontario also used to raise and train GSDs (Havelberg Dog Academy.) He often turns his dogs out with the big cats when they are young, and lets them play together.

Last time I was there, one of his GSDs was playing with a young cougar!

Of course, he socializes any cats born at the zoo so they can easily be handled by humans, if necessary.
Hundmutter

by Hundmutter on 14 January 2018 - 22:01

Have not found any video of that dog - it happened some time ago, may not have had film make it onto the web - but youtube has dozens of videos of similar strange adoptions & friendships; dogs and lion cubs, dogs and tigers, tiger and bear, tigress raising a litter of piglets ...all with human connivance of course, just as with Sunny's example.

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