Searching for a certain type of Bandog - Page 1

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Does anyone know of anyone on this website who has had a Bandog with the cross between, American bulldog Johnson, x Presa canario, x Pitbull Terrier x English mastiff. I have seen many with just Am bull, x Presa, and others with Pitbull and many different types of mastiffs, was just wondering if anyone knew of a bandog or bandogge with those 4 breeds in it...

Thanks.

Looks like you are going to have to mix that cocktail up for yourself!

Jeez I used to breed purebred Chabray cattle, had to maintain two other purebred breeds of cattle to maintain the third purebred breed or the percentages would go out and you couldn't register them. The paperwork, god dang - what an absolute breeding nightmare.

Never again, can't imagine how hard that would be to maintain percentages with that many dog breeds in the mix. Better animal breededs than me, that's fo sure.

@beetree

Well, I've seen several of them with very similar mixes, he had a Pitbull x Neapolitan and the other half was a bull dog x cane corso x presa...I don't know why I would have to mix them myself, there are literally thousands of bandog kennels. Even on face book there are already a lot of presa x bull dog.

Here is an example of a Presa x Ambull johnson
https://scontent.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/15965416_1056997491090113_9123919827855734640_n.jpg?oh=61f1c9c877b93312269e357789bf001a&oe=59B03632

Neapolitain x Pitbull is just flooded all through out the internet, but I am not fond of the neapolitain as part of the bandogge. These kennels do a variety of mastiffs with the pit-bull as goes Bandogs:
http://mindchangingkennel.com/

I figure I ask this site since they have registered dogs and show the lines to ensure quality breeding as some sellers state a breed but it is not, via some state pitbull but instead show a staffordshire, some sellers say cane corso but is american bully. I have seen more than a few of this bandog on face book, which has a lot more postings than googles search engine shows. So if anyone sees that four way cross, feel free to share their contact info.

@vk4gsd

Don't really care for percentages, is there even such thing as a pure breed dog? The answer is no, there is no such thing as a 100% bred dog, with DNA testing you will always show another dog in its lineage, even with line breeding or inbreeding, even if you inbred for more than several lines, that doesn't take off the past history of it coming from another dog... as long as the bandogs primary breeds make up of Presa x Pitbull x Bulldog Johnson x English mastiff, I would get that dog.

Bandogs are all purpose dogs, they can move at the same speeds, agility and maneuverability as any terrier family, and they have the size and strength of any mastiff family, which is the most ideal hunting x protection. If I wanted a small game dog, I would get a pitbull, excellent for eradicating rats, squirrels, cats or what ever small sized animal, but a pitbull is a poor guard dog, it not only loves humans, but at only 30 - 50 pounds it has no man-stopper credentials, a burglar could man handle a small pitbull. The same with a mastiff, it is large enough to bade a human, but it tires out quickly and not ideal for small or medium game. Anyone who knows the bandogs history knows it was to take the ideal working traits via best of both worlds of the mastiff and terrier of size, athletics, agility, maneuverability and power of certain breeds and unify them to make a powerful all purpose breed, its not a opinion or speculation, it is a fact that bandogs are elite working dogs.

In other words, why buy 20 hunting dogs for huge amounts of money, when you can just buy 2 or 3 ban-dogs who can do the job just as efficient. Why buy 5 pit-bulls for hunting and 2 rottweilers for guarding which is 7 separate dogs to own, when I can buy 2 Bandogges that could cover all their tasks with even better results. Bandogs have been around for hundreds and hundreds of years, they are nothing new in the breed world, the only difference between them is, there is a variety of breeds of its make up.

Firstly you are incorrect about what a purebred is. As soon as a stud book is closed you have a pure breed.

Did you not read I bred a pure breed of cattle by composing two other breeds to a percentage that had to comply with the breed standard....then I created purebreds by definition.

You are confusing breed and species, most people do. Species is a scientific thing, breed is a definition made up by a committee.

Yr Bandogs hype is nothing more than hype.

Kanary,

The problem that I see after perusing Wiki for info, is that the modern Bandog describes a type of dog pertaining to a specific working function which is not determined by a described uniformity within a singular breed standard as you would see in a pedigree from the breeds listed on this site.

One could easily use bandog criteria and apply those to any number of Doodle dogs if the work aspect was exchanged and included non-allergenic, coach potato traits. Or, too, mal x dutchie x GSD crosses for LE K9's. They are valued mutts, for sure.

You get the dog you want in front of you. Replication with consistency, well, vk4 mentioned those hurdles, didn't he?

@vk4gsd

I know what species is, its just a terminology used in science to differentiate two different animals, which is further broken down to sub-species, in that case in biology, a different breed would be known as a sub-species of dog as the genus of dogs are canis lupus, a different species of a dog would be a wolf, a subspecies is bracketed in its own species, hence all dogs are not different species, they are different sub-species known as breeds.

Hype? Can you scientifically prove that a 30 pound wienner dog can bite as hard as the Boer boel (who has the strongest tested bite) at 540 psi? No, can you show me a 300 pound english mastiff that runs as fast as a grey hound? Show one to me than, because certain breeds are for certain tasks, a Labrador retriever is for retrieving ducks, a Presa is made for big game like boars, how about you show me a Presa retrieving ducks as good as a Labrador and in reverse show a Labrador tackling a boar without getting torn up or killed and be able to contend with it long enough for the hunter to dispatch the animal...

How can you be on a breeding or pedigree site and not know about things like traits, attributes, temperaments?

Please define what a Bandog is so I can answer.

@beetree

No one would call Wikipedia any credible source by a mile, this is why I chose to ask here, as this site has people who register their dogs, so they would know the temperament, performance, skill and maybe even history of that line.

I am ever only interested in working dogs. Or dogs that have a purpose. The pitbull x neo was the original american bandogge, can you show a kennel with the title of Bandog and shows these doodle mixed mutts? You won't find any kennel with the title of bandog and have it as anything other than working purposes of hunting x property protection, the bandog has been around for as long as the mastiff was in the same vicinity of a small bull or terrier breed:
http://bandog-slovakia.sk/bandog-en/

I did not post a topic to debate anyone, I was here to ask if anyone knew of a bandog that has those breeds in it.