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by vk4gsd on 04 April 2017 - 01:04

share with me in the celebration, 100 wild-cats all one out, how many other gsd got that?

 

Mod edit...video removed and thread moved from training to general/main. mrdarcy


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by Baerenfangs Erbe on 04 April 2017 - 04:04

WTF?

by vk4gsd on 04 April 2017 - 04:04

C for cat.

by hexe on 04 April 2017 - 05:04

I understand why this is necessary, I really do...but I really, really appreciate you not showing the cats being killed. Yeah, I'm weak that way...I know it's a far quicker death and more humane than poisoning them, I just don't need to see it.

I'd rather see it accomplished via trap/neuter/return, but I also get why, for the most part, it's just not a viable solution down there.

by vk4gsd on 04 April 2017 - 05:04

Trust me you do not want to see what the current gov issued poison does to cause death.

It is truly horrific and will traumatise anyone who sees it happen. I think it should be banned.

Depending on what traps they can be brutal. Cage traps that don't hurt the animal are best but it is slow and expensive, not practical.

Don't stress things can be done humanely and no worse than the average cow going to the abattoir or mama pig locked in a sow stall.

You guys have a federal ag-gag on yr media so you don't all become vegan.

 

This way its over in literally seconds, and dozens endangered species are not thrill tortured by a cat for another night.


by hexe on 04 April 2017 - 07:04

Oh, I fully agree that this way is far better than anything else that's an option down there--I just hate witnessing anything being killed, no matter why it's happening.

I know that trap/neuter/return is something that is feasible in cities and suburbs, but in rural or undeveloped areas it simply isn't realistic--and even if it was, the sterilized cats would still probably die from poisoning after they'd been released. The poison used here in the US for our 'nuisance' species-coyotes, wolves, etc.--is an awful way to go as well; just recently, a child's dog was killed by one of the poison-delivery devices and the child was exposed to the substance when they came upon it in a location it shouldn't have been placed. The kid is okay physically, but you can bet that he'll never get the image of his dog dying in agony out of his memory.

There's a reason I don't feed my calves out to butchering weight, and why the only thing I eat that I've raised are the eggs my chickens laid...but I know full well what the destination of my calves is when I sell them, for the most part, too. [Some of the heifers are purchased for breeding, but even then, the eventual outcome for nearly every domestic bovine is the abattoir, after all.]

I appreciate that you aren't doing it for the thrill of the kill yourself, either, and that the dogs make quick work of the job. If people had been mindful of their cats in the first place, there wouldn't be any need for the task now. Carry on.


mrdarcy (admin)

by mrdarcy on 04 April 2017 - 17:04

While I appreciate you provide a service really don't think this is the place to crow about celebrating, very distasteful for many members I would think.

Don't think it belongs in the training forum either

by hexe on 05 April 2017 - 02:04

To me, the dog is doing a job, plain and simple, and catching 100 feral cats in a single night is quite an accomplishment, actually--those cats aren't even close to tame, so I view it as predator control in the same vein as what we do here in the US WRT coyotes, or the eradication efforts underway in this country of feral swine...wherein dogs are used in both endeavors.

Repeating the same task with that kind of frequency suggests that this dog has a strong hunt drive and work ethic, traits that many in the business of training sniffer dogs for law enforcement lament are missing in the majority of GSDs they encounter while scouting vendors' offerings of green dogs. How many dogs would retrieve a dumbbell thrown 100 times in a single evening-long training session?

It's not a warm, fuzzy subject, that's true. Neither is the impact the unchecked proliferation of feral cats has had upon the Australian ecosystem, however.

by vk4gsd on 05 April 2017 - 02:04

I just read a US article on the carnage cats are doing to yr small mammal & birds stateside.

Seems you guys have a massive slaughter of yr wildlife...anyone caring?

 

Let's talk about programmable robot toys to keep our gsd from biting wifey.


by hexe on 05 April 2017 - 05:04

vk4gsd, yes, there are people who care about that, but the situation is nowhere near what you guys a facing...and it less the feral cat populations as it is the owned cats whose owners vehemently insist that cats MUST be allowed to roam freely outdoors. It's those cats which are taking out a lot of our song birds and small reptiles; the neighborhood bird feeders are like a freshly stocked buffet for these house cats at large.





 


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