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by vk4gsd on 01 March 2017 - 01:03

about 4 major studies have been conducted on off the shelf fish oil supplements. broadly speaking the long chain fatty acids are a highly unstable molecule. the implications for supps is that out of the brands studied, (the most popular) they conatin vey little omega 3's and the bit they do contain are oxidised (biological rust) and to make it worse the levels of saturated fats are high, over 2/3 of the total.

so in a nutshell you are paying for an underdosed product that has no biological benefit due to oxidisation that is high in saturated fat. the human studies showed that fish oil recommended for inflammation of diabetes patient in highly oxidised products actually increased inflammation.

also note most fish oil especially the cheaper stuff comes from peru then china and is blended and primarily used for fish meal at fish farms and then the by-product is put in caps for humans which adds a lot of value to a waste product.

the fish meal fed to farmed salmon causes a drop in Omega 3's in the salmon so it's lose, lose.

not the only study on supplements that shows the only benefit humans get is the most expensive urine on the planet.

consider this a B-slap from big pharama with the public rejection of science and the rise of unregulated alt medicine and holistic blah, blah market.

on a positive note if you can afford it, just use oily fresh wild fish tested for heavy metals. also look for algal sources of fish oil. due to the labelling being mainly unregulated in the non-medicine/alt medicine supps industry good luck with reading the labels.

a fish oil industry funded commercial lab that refuses to publish their methods refute the results.

find your own links if you are interested.

short version - health supps are basically a waste of money for people that think they can beat clinically tested and unregulated public peer reviewed science.
 


DuganVomEichenluft

by DuganVomEichenluft on 01 March 2017 - 09:03

Posting the links to these 4 major studies would be greatly appreciated.

by vk4gsd on 01 March 2017 - 09:03

http://www.heartlungcirc.org/article/S1443-9506(15)00167-5/abstract

 

The only science I read is behind pay walls. Tell me if you can read this, abstract prolly visible. This paper has had further confirmation from other groups around the world;

 


Jenni78

by Jenni78 on 01 March 2017 - 14:03

I'm not sure if you think this is new info or what. It's long been known that very few fish body oil supplements are worth the expense for the amount of benefit they may provide. But, not all are created equal, and there are some really good ones- they're not cheap, though, and they can't beat fresh (or frozen), whole fish pulled from clean waters. Mine loooove their giant mackeral.

Jenni78

by Jenni78 on 02 March 2017 - 01:03

Sorry, vk4. I was genuinely asking if you were presenting this as new info or just a reminder about the pitfalls of fish oil as a supplement. I was chastised and told I was "beating you down." My apologies.

by Noitsyou on 02 March 2017 - 02:03

What about those supplements which are backed by clinical science?

Cutaway

by Cutaway on 03 March 2017 - 22:03

vk -
I am confused on what you are pointing out here, are you saying the Fish Oil as a supplement is not effective for preventing heart disease or are you stating that its not good for anything?

The study you provided us with (and thank you for doing so) is a study on the usage of Fish Oil supplements as a heart disease preventive

by vk4gsd on 03 March 2017 - 23:03

The point is Omega-3's are proven to be beneficial, the problem is most commercial popular over the counter fish oils tested are mainly saturated fat, around 2/3 total and the omega 3 component is rancid ie already oxidised.

If the products contained what they claim and not what they hide they would be beneficial.

In short, the substance is good, the products you buy mostly aren't.

by Swarnendu on 04 March 2017 - 06:03

Where's bubba when we need him the most!!

by vk4gsd on 04 March 2017 - 07:03

Nah bubba doesn't do science.





 


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