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bun bun

by bun bun on 04 February 2017 - 04:02

I seen a few dog with kkl3 posted on this site. I only thought kkl1 and 2 were it. If anyone can break down the specific in the rating that would help!


Western Rider

by Western Rider on 04 February 2017 - 05:02

There used to be a kkl1 and a kkl2  now there is only kkl never was a 3

so depending on what the date is you could see a 1 and 2  or just kkl.


Fantom76 (admin)

by Fantom76 on 04 February 2017 - 06:02

Well, hate to reverse a fellow admin, but I believe that there was a Kkl3 awarded a long time ago but what you see now is a mistake.
I have 4 Czech dogs in my database from the 1980's
1.tr.=Kkl1, 2.tr=Kkl.2, 3.tr=Kkl.3
Nutty z Vrazske zahrady CKSP 50854/91 3.tr.ch. 5CKX3/4,4 
Cety Rapacov CKSP 52078/88 3.trida chov. 5DKU3/3,3,
Bryta z Havena CKSP 41943 3.trida.chov. 5DI7/23
Cedra z Kvarce CKSP 51205, 3.trida.ch. 7CLUT6/44

Oli deleted Kkl in error one time when he changed the program, and just left Kkl.1 , Kkl.2 and Kkl.3.and people had no way of showing that their dogs were just Köred, so I have found that some people use Kkl.3. I correct it when I see it.


Western Rider

by Western Rider on 04 February 2017 - 06:02

Fanthom I am always ready to learn new things.  I never heard of a kkl3 I know Oli had it here and many were using it because their dogs only had kkl and they thought that is what they should use.

How many years ago was a kkl3 used  was it used in Germany or else where.


Fantom76 (admin)

by Fantom76 on 04 February 2017 - 07:02

The SV eliminated the Kkl.1 and Kkl.2 starting in 2012, but I have found instances of other countries still issuing the Kkl1 and Kkl2 after that date. Denmark and Great Britain for example

Western....I can only find those 4 dogs in my database... all Czech and they were born in the late 1980's.  To be honest, I have no idea where I got the information from as I don't make note of every item that I enter in my database.  But since there are 4 of them, and written in the way that the Czech write their Kör's, I tend to believe them....... unless of course there were 4 typing errors on their part, because I am certain that I would double check my typing on such an unusual entry


Fantom76 (admin)

by Fantom76 on 04 February 2017 - 07:02

I remember now. I found them on some old Czech import pedigrees that I found pictures of on some different websites. I was surprised to see them, but they were definitely written as 3.tr. or Kkl.3

by Hukka on 04 February 2017 - 16:02

There are many III tr, Czech dogs. In my database I have at least dozen or more. One is in my dogs pedigree, Nora z Blatenskeho zamku. One well known dog also, Abbe z Ansy also III tr.. I don't know how to post picture here so will send it to Fantom to post for me, it is picture of Nora's III tr. in my dogs pedigree.

Fantom76 (admin)

by Fantom76 on 04 February 2017 - 18:02

Here is the picture that Hukka sent to me.

An image


susie

by susie on 04 February 2017 - 19:02

Is there any chance to find an English or German written standard about the Czech breed survey?
There are translations for the survey card itself, but no explanations, so
in which case do they get a 1 or 2 rating ( never heard about 3 though...)?





 


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