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by duke1965 on 12 January 2017 - 12:01

by Reliya on 12 January 2017 - 12:01
by duke1965 on 12 January 2017 - 13:01
good thank you

by Jenni78 on 12 January 2017 - 13:01
by duke1965 on 12 January 2017 - 13:01
http://www.pedigreedatabase.com/german_shepherd_dog/dog.html?id=1952890-kerry-cita-van-de-duca-vallei
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http://www.pedigreedatabase.com/german_shepherd_dog/dog.html?id=636424-extra-gila-van-de-duca-vallei
by joanro on 12 January 2017 - 13:01
by duke1965 on 13 January 2017 - 06:01

by Hundmutter on 13 January 2017 - 07:01
Don't think you can 'expect' anything other than the B&T variations; odds are that even though a black or two are possible, they won't show up in one litter. Repeat that mating, and who knows, maybe sometime down the line. (You may get some that look very, very dark, early on !)
by joanro on 13 January 2017 - 12:01
Why do you not think black is an option, duke? You said a grand parent was black. Unless you know there are not any black recessive in any of the others in the breeding, blacks are cpossible.
As for not getting any until the breeding is repeated doesn't make sense to me.
I bred two sables together, first and only litter, and got three out of seven pups solid/self black. The closest black dog on the male side was three generations back.
On the female, she was GSL on top of her sire, so no blacks. And on her mother's side, I don't know where the black is, can't see it in her ped, but it certainly is there somewhere....just not real close, maybe third or fourth gen.
So from experience, I would not say 'no black pups in this litter are possible'.
After all, getting a black pup is not the same as getting a sable, where at least one parent of the litter must be sable.
Good luck with your litter, and hope you have a happy, prosperous New Year.
by Swarnendu on 13 January 2017 - 14:01
Just curious...
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