America's Most Elite Dogs - Page 3

I am not pro generalizing, And I can vouch that American soldiers when acting out of their heart, they show humanity and care for other people welfare more than their kins.
But fact remains all soldiers, everywhere follow orders, sometimes those orders are mold with corruption and false reasons

Of course there is corruption, as there is in all of mankind. But to stereotype any group of people like bubba did is wrong. It devalues those who are honorable.

Calling a group of bomb sniffing dogs in the military the most elite dogs is stereotyping and where this thread began. If there is any stereotyping it is the blind patriotic kind that led to the war in Iraq caused by citizens and legislators that believed the WMD and other BS fed to the citizens by the compliant press and liars in the military leadership and the intelligence political hacks. It was the same BS as in the 1960's with Vietnam and the pressure by the US military to invade Cuba and start a nuclear war. The Domino theory which was the precursor to Vietnam and Cambodia was all BS as were the stories of WMD in Iraq. Blind acceptance of BS as fact leads to dead soldiers and useless wars. There is no elitism in the US military. There are some excellent people but to call any unit, group, or military segment elite is not accurate. The military dogs are not any better than others of their kind and worse than some of their kind just as are the soldiers and military leadership.

Did you know that stereotyping in itself is not a "bad" thing? It is part of our discerning process we use everyday. Without the ability to make such assessments, we could not make judgments that inform ourselves, everyday.

To deny that is PC, and probably stupid. One should always take the stereotype and then the individual into consideration, to form the best informed assessments.

This means the stereotype can be discarded; it isn't a life sentence with decision making.

IMHO

Bubba, If you could give the refernces to the statement you made earlier about bomb dogs jumping out of 10 story windows,I would still be interested in seeing these. Mike

The reference about the dogs bailing out of a 10 story window was from a book written by a Navy Seal about training with their dogs .. apparently they did not know what their dogs were capable of. The book was some of the Bin Laden celebration books about how to train like a Navy Seal, eat like a Navy Seal, sleep with three alarm clocks and such BS. The Navy Seals are the poster boys for how being good at your job doesn't make you a good person or what you do all good things. The Navy Seal guide to corporate management and business school has apparently not borne any useful fruit. The Navy Seal guide to elementary education has likewise not been well received.

You say it's such BS yet you still brought it up to use in your "claim".....

It sounds like you have one source and one situation that you are basing a wide sweeping statements. Furthermore, the Seals are not reflective of the training or scenarios of 95% of the military.
As for atrocities and carnages taking place by our military, these occurrences are an unfortunate byproduct of wars throughout the ages. I was at Ft Benning and an MP when LT Calley of the Mai Lai massacre was incarcerated in the stockade. I know that the general consensus of most of the military personnel I had contact with was the actions of killing innocent civilians was never acceptable if at all possible. But soldiers following orders are systems, and not always reflective of training or the men or the dogs performances.

K9 Warriors
Author : MIKE RITLAND

Back in the '60s, I came across a book about the training of Seeing Eye dogs, which at the time, were exclusively GSDs. Someone asked the trainer why the breed was the first choice for guide dogs.

His reply went something like this: "Suppose you were using a standard poodle instead. They're about the right size. Now, if the blind person came to the edge of an excavation in the sidewalk, and told the poodle to go forward, he'd jump into the pit. The German shepherd would have the sense not to jump, even though it meant disobeying its handler."

Too bad that's changed, eh?