Your experience at GSDCA dog show? - Page 1

I entered a dog in a local GSDCA club show, V5, Schh3, FH1, and RN, CD, completely stable temperament. .
He came in second to last out of 8, the dog that came in last was literally lame and was trying to fight with every other dog. The dog that won was so loose in the hocks it hurt me to watch. The club boasted the it will be the next champion.
 

I was extra careful to smile and make only positive comments the whole afternoon. After the show was a bbq, only 1 person came to talk, and she owned euro dog, but was showing an asl. She asked me to sit next to her at the table and when I did, all conversation ceased.

Before the show, I was in an adjacent field enjoying some obedience and tracking. A 16ish year old boy watched. He wanted to know how train..... I gave him some tips and then he did a BH with my dog, and they looked decent. This kid was a natural! When his mother saw what he was doing she came and dragged him away, scolding the whole way!  I can only hope a seed was planted.

GSDCA is creating another working dog committee............ while those on the committee and those participating in the SV style are very committed, IMO the majority of rest of GSDCA will continue to laugh behind their backs. This is the same as what has happened with the WDA since its inception. While I hope this new committee the best of luck, I cannot see a bright future for this new committe.

I also entered a UKC show with this same dog........I was pleased that the judges seemed educated about the international standard and judged dog by both standards, as if in a mixed breed ring. In this show, this same dog came in first 3 times and second once and best of breed once. The ring has several ASL's and another Euro GSD.

Im not sure the answer is "seperate but equal" is the answer. I do know that being laughted at behind one's back is not.

Separate but equal has been proven to be anything but!

Make them two different breeds and allow cross breeding into the ASL like the appendix Quarter Horses and Thouroughbreds.

The GSDCA hasn't moved forward in over 20 years and they are not going to start now. 

The AKC standard has the ASL as a trotting breed.

The International Standard has the GSD as a working breed.

Which dog do you want?

Come on, do you really think ASL people are treated any better at SV shows? Are you kidding me? I saw the way a gal with a Dallas sired vet bitch was shunned at an SV show. She was naive, thought a dog show was a dog show and wanted to exhibit what she thought was her beautiful veteran. 

I've never seen anything like GSD breeders, the way you guys dump on one another is just amazing. My dog is better than  your dog is all it's about. How's that working for you so far?

Blitizen,
The discussion is how the new GSDCA committee is destine to fail........my experience is just one of many.
The recent placement of Nino is yet another example.........its not to have 2 distinct breed standards inside of one club.

Destined to fail? Do you know who is serving on that committee?

BTW, the FCI and the AKC breed standards are strikingly similar. They both describe a  common dog; they are not distinctivley different in any way. It's the way the judges and breeders  interpret them that gives us the variety we see in the breed today.

from the get to, the breed standards are different.
one is a trotting dog, the other is a working dog.

it doesn't matter who is serving on the committee......a house that's split is soon to fail....

Both standards say the GSD is trotting dog, Kim. AKC also says -  companion, watchdog, blind leader, herding dog, or guardian. The FCI says -  companion, guard, protection, service and herding dog. I believe they would all be consider working venues, not?

We'll see what happens with the committee. I believe it's a good committee that will act in the best interests of the breed.

AKC may say a minimal function is for a GSD to be a working dog, but there are no requirements for prooving them!
We all know that under AKC any dog can be bred without hip/elbow certs, working titles, show titles or even a minimum temperament test.....

The GSDCA-WDA / GSDCA relationship for the past 20 years have proven that this new committee its destine to fail.


 

one huge difference from a SV trial and an AKC trial is the pedigree of each dog goes into the SV  ring for the judge to use as critera for his awards. A dog with a pedigree which shows no titles, no hip or ellbow certification in any generation will not get the respect of a specimen with generations of information included in the pedigree. Makes sence to know as much as possible about each dog and the ancestry is important to give the BREED direction.