GSDCA Message to it's Members - Page 3

Dog1 sent me a copy of the WDA treasurers report.  Thank you for that.

Dog1 wrote that,"The WDA admits, on paper, in their treasurer's report they are seeking 24,500 of which they recognize only 16,500 is legitimate. How do you get past that? Is that good business? Is that the way to get the money you are owed?"

The WDA report states that, "Estimated total of all WUSV monies due to WDA is:" and their is a breakdown of dollar amounts for each item that total 24,500. After the breakout is a statement that, "$24,500 is maximum due from GSDCA for all the above.  The minimum due is $16,000".  It then states the breakdown for the $16,000.

I agree that this is certainly odd.  I don't understand the minimum and maximum amounts due.  Heck, I don't even understand the "estimated" comment.  However, this is not an admission of legitamcy.  Who knows what it menas.  It should certainly be clarified. Elsewhere in the report it mentions that Dan Yee submitted documentation to the GSDCA.  Don't know if this is the clarification or not.  Again, I'm not going to make up an answer for what I don't know.

Instead, I will contact Dan Yee and ask him what this all means. 

Don't know how this affects the whole GSDCA mess but what the hey! you never know till you ask.

bzcz,

Happy to provide some information to shed some light on the subject. Sometimes it's easier to make a point when everyone is looking at the same information.

You may note that none of your expenses were included in the WDA itemization. Here's the part where I was talking about the subs loosing out when the GC doesn't prepare the claim properly. You may, and from what you have said are, entitled to reimbursement. You have the authorization and recipts. However your representative, the WDA aparrantly failed to submit it for reimbursement. It's not on the list. You loss could very easily be; not because the GSDCA will not pay it, but a situation where the WDA never presented it to them. See what they say about that.

Just so others can follow. The Jan. 2014 Treasurer's report lists the following items as a cost associated with a 25,000 claim for reimbursement of costs incurred for the World Event by the WDA on behalf of the GSDCA:

3,000 for 6 helpers who tried for the Worlds and were not accepted.

7,000 for vehicles for transport to tracking fields, gasoline and port a potties.for the field parking lot and office expenses.

1,000 Partial reimbursement for meals for judges and staff.

7,500 expenses for WDA team and Captain.

4,000 Universal Sieger Championship for the competitors.

2,000 Combined Qualification Trial 

The report than states 24.500 is the maximum due and 16,000 is the minimum due.

Dog1,

Again, don't suppose what you don't know.  I submitted directly to GSDCA.  That was the process and I followed it.  The only follow up I received was the questioning me of why I needed to check luggage and didn't carry it all on board. 

bzcz,

Bad contracting process. You don't have the agreement with the GSDCA the WDA does. It should go through them. Anyway, let's hear what Dan has to say. Let us know.

Talk to GSDCA about it.  It was their process.  I dealt directly with GSDCA for all travel plans and arrangements.  WDA had nothing to do with any of it.

Of course GSDCA is now going to create this new awesome committee that is going to be so much better than WDA...that does the same thing that WDA did.....that has many of the "old" WDA board members involved in it...that they are now PAYING some of these new committee members just to be on the committee....that still allows GSDCA to be in violation of the WUSV breed standard.    Like I said before, when you throw your integrity on the floor for whatever reason, you don't get the benefit of doubt anymore on your future endeavors.  GSDCA burned me to the the tune of just over 2k.  I can live with that, it's not going to make or break me.  However, in doing so, they broke their word to me, so you'll forgive me if I don't jump on their bandwagon that NOW they are going to do everything right.  They had that chance and blew it. 

bzcz,

Your point is well taken. Don't blame you a bit. You put forth your effort to help the organization out and you got burned. Right, wrong, or indifferent you got burned. No good deed goes unpunished.

Seems there's a lot of that following the WDA too. I'll bet the webmaster that never got paid for doing the site, the secretary that was ousted for not distributing meeting minutes to unauthorized members, the volunteer brought up on charges for something that allegedily occurred while they were in the bathroom by someone that wasn't even there. The kennel that went to the trouble of forming a group, entering the group, being scrutinized at the event, being told as they were on the field they could not participate.......all feel your pain to a degree too.

Matt Levin aka bzcz,

I asked a simple question and, in trying to slam me, you unintentionally acknowledge the good basis of the question--there were multiple coordinators.    Thank you. 

Nia,

Suuurreee..... You spoke to three people who claim to be coordinators and pointed everything out to TPTB.  I very much doubt that you talked to Jurgen Ritzi, or Dean.

I only point out what you attempt.  Your issues not mine.

i think it is sad that you have not get your money!!!i also think it is time to see the truth, you have help out on the WUSV for your organisation"WDA".

you have spend money and time to go there and have give your best.this year it was time for a payback!!!you did apply to be helper for the natinals or the world qualifier, did they remember your effort from last year, did they remember that you helped out, no they have play their games and have cut the cake in three big parts. you did not get a part from the cake.are you sure you want be the dumm a.. who does the work and on the end they do not remember you when you want a "sunny moment". 

It is every year the same, some people work,some people are their and only a few peole shine

For a little further insight into the he said, she said drama between the GSDCA and its underling, the GSDCA-WDA, I suggest you go to www.gsdca.org and click on the members section on the far right and then the Presidents Message about the WDA.  The message gives some history and a bit of a different perspective than some of us may have heard before.