Invisible Fence Installed-Rosé not Reacting as I Expected - Page 5

I tried all types of fences including underground and also electric attached top and bottom to existing fencing. One dog was impossible to keep contained He would start screaming about 10 feet from the e-fence and all the way over. it didn't matter if the electric was burried or strung on the fence itself. This was a lab/golden mix, he'd get a look in his eye, head for the fence and never look back.
Eventually, i attached 2 foot wide chicken wire to the bottom of the fence and burried it and placed "rollers" to the top of it.He could no longer dig or squeeze under and if he tried to climb he fell off. I finally trained him not to get near the fence with an ecollar on high. I used it from inside the house he recieved no warning, just a very strong stimulation when he got within 2 feet of the fence. He learned very quickly.  Lots of trial and error, but finally found something that worked.

I used an underground fence for my first house and it worked 100% for 4 years with my gsd mix. I put a lot of foundation training in with flag work.  I think the installer gave you faulty information as your dog shouldn't be shocked like that during the initial training.

Why did we put underground fence in?  We just simply couldn't afford a real fence at the time. So, sometimes life is life and you make do with what you can afford. One point of warning...take collar off when they come in. My girl would get random shocks inside and so we learned to take collar off when she came in and put back on when she went out.  But, the fence never failed and not once did she ever "break through".  Good luck!!!

Smiley; Hits on one very important part of any training, Foundation. Forgive me if I am wrong but I seem to remember this handler having issues with how the dog reacted to the prong collar. Am I confused with another poster? You must teach a dog how to react properly to a correction or it is punishment in the dog's mind. There is a difference.

Different poster GSD.   For Rosé, I have never used a prong collar.  I have had a few questions in the past about using it on one of my other dogs.

 

Gsdstudent-  you are remembering incorrectly. I refused to use a prong collar because I did not find it necessary for my dog at that point in time. So, I got kicked out of an IPO training group by trainer. He wanted me to use it for tracking and heeling...simply to "polish her up" and so "everyone would be on the same page". I refused...finding it unecessary for her and my training goals.  Plus, I know my dog. Period. Just wanted to correct your error in statement. Feel free to apologize if you see fit....

Good luck, Fawn!! I had great success with the electric. It's a good psychological barrier. My old dog never had one problem with the fence. Not one incident.  Interestingly, I now have a regular fence and my new dog use to try to dig out from under it or push gate open with pressure. So, there are problems with all fences!!!

Thank you.  The fence will have its purpose; as with everything, CORRECT training is the key.  I just did not expect Rose's reaction and I wanted valued input one how to best address it and still work towards the product working as expected.

Depends on the dog on either side of the radio fence, as to whether or not it works. One night I had a ruckus out in the yard. My dog was barking and going nuts. I went out to see what the problem was, shined the flash light where the dog was trying to get through the fence at something......it was a raccoon that was trying just as hard to get in with my dog. Was carrying my 357 mag and dispatched the animal through the heart. Took it to the state Ag lab in Fletcher...it tested positive for rabies. An "invisible fence" would not have stopped the rabid raccoon from fighting with my dog.

Smiley, my poor comunication skills. I meant " a thumbs Up'' to your comment about foundation training. I had no comment about your dogs or training. I think maybe Fawn has asked about the use of pressure with a prong and how the dog responds. If I am off base, Fawn, my apologys. On command, a dog must give the proper behavior, to avoid pressure. If pressure is applied the dog can not give you a second, but different misbehavior. A dog will revert back to the behavior it has learned to turn the pressure off. A smart dog might give you 3 or 4 different behaviors before complience. A smart trainer recognize the trick behavior and rewards the proper one. 

GSD.....Oh, gotcha!!! No worries....

I'm not going to sugar coat this. One of your dogs was just hit by a car, and you now have livestock owners complaining about your dogs. Keep in mind that in many states, a dog can be shot and killed for harassing livestock and the livestock owner is 100% acting within their rights. As I think you are aware, an invisible fence is not a substitute for proper dog management, training, and containment. It is just a tool. A tool that is being used incorrectly, I might add, even after people have explained to you how to use it. I think you would be better served asking people HOW they manage their multiple dog households and HOW they keep their dogs contained, rather than looking for answers that agree with what you have already decided to do. Joanro gave you a REALLY GOOD SUGGESTION on the first page.

And another thing, I have lived in suburbia, urban areas, semi-rural areas, and out in the middle of nowhere. At no point did I feel that my dogs were 100% safe from harm. Packs of feral dogs, coyotes (even in urban areas), unsupervised children, people looking for fighting dogs/bait dogs, people looking for dogs to flip for profit (GSDs are BIG money-makers). Don't think that a "professional" dog fighter or dog flipper can't get your dog into their car - they can, and fast. Any barrier is a deterrent. An invisible fence is NOT a barrier. There are a lot of cheap fencing options. You can find welded wire fencing and t-posts for cheap at Lowes and I believe Tractor Supply. They are easy and fast to put up: I put up about 75 ft while 8 months pregnant. You could put them around the outside of your invisible fence barrier. I believe Tractor Supply also has cheap cattle panels that can be used. Whatever you use, talk to some of the people here who have either used invisible fencing successfully or who KNOW how to contain animals safely and effectively, and follow their advice to the letter. Any time you are letting your dogs out to run around and you are not in sight (and it is hard to tell from your descriptions what the sequence of events are that are leading to your dogs running off), you need to have some kind of barrier to protect THEM.

That probably sounds harsh, but that's what I think and I'm not going to pretend to think otherwise.