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by fawndallas on 16 March 2014 - 02:03

I just had invisible fence installed today.  We are in the low correction, conditioning stage for this first week.  The bite should not be more than a flea at this point.

Rose is not dealing with this training well.  She is not freaking out, but she is definitly showing high distress signs during the training and for hour or more afterwards; trimibling, not wanting to leave my side, wanting constant contact.

The training consists casually walking near the line, dog crosses, hears the beeping, "flea bite," and a gentle return to me, the right side of the line.  The idea is to teach the dog that being on the right side is safe and being on the wrong side is not safe.

I not reacting to Rose's response.  I am just going on with life like nothing is happening.  Rosé is rarely corrected and has never been on an e-collar or electic fence.

How can I help her get past this?  I want to be sure that her reaction does not get worse.  None of the other dogs reacted this way.

If I am being over sensitive to her reaction and just need to continue/give it more time, feel free to tell me.  Tongue Smile

by joanro on 16 March 2014 - 02:03

I dislike invisible fence intensely. Real fence is safer. A lot of dogs learn to just run through it. They find out the shock only last a split second when they run. Some dogs get so they won't leave the house. A friend of my used to sell it thirty years ago.
A little mini bull was on invisible fence and a kid walked across the yard (no fence to prevent it) and the dog scratched the kid. the people lost their dog to AC.
What was the motivation to get Invis fence?
When you're training, you should not ever let them get shocked. The beep is the signal for you to show the dog the appropriate response, Before it gets the shock!, which is to turn and come away from the wire. Three times a day, perpendicular to the fence, beep sounds, pull dog away from fence. Do this for at least a week before the dog is ever turned loose. And not before the dog is indicating, without you having to pull it away, that it knows the correct reaction to the beep. Then, while the dog is still on the leash (all this training is done on lead) give it the opportunity to get close enough to get shocked, hopefully the dog will know which direction to go to stop the shock, if not, then you help it go the correct direction.

by joanro on 16 March 2014 - 02:03

Adding to above; praise, praise, praise when the dog makes the correct choice. Best of luck.
Personally, I would never put one of my dogs on it and I won't let my pups go where that is the containment system in use.
Real fence is better.

EduCanine

by EduCanine on 16 March 2014 - 03:03

I would try switching the collar if you can, it's not unheard of to have a faulty collar. I would hate to be accidentally over-correcting my dog.

by joanro on 16 March 2014 - 03:03

Another thing you can do, is to carry the collar in your hand, so you both hear the beep, and the dog won't accidentally be getting shocked if you don't know where the boundary is exactly.

by beetree on 16 March 2014 - 12:03

Fawn,

You are not doing the training properly. I agree with Joan.  You should have plugs on the ends of the contacts and not be shocking the dog to start. The idea is to train the dog to do a proper response... which is to turn INTO the property when the sound alarm is heard. The flags are your dogs visual cue, the beep is the audio cue.

You do this by walking the dog on leash, along the perimimeter and turn out at different points. As soon as you hear the beep, you use the leash to turn the dog in towards your property, and you reward with praise for a proper response.

Once your dog has learned to be conditioned to the proper response, that is when you remove the contact for the real "shock". 

If that is done correctly, then your dog will not need another shock. 

I have trained at least three dogs to do this and none have ever gone through what Rose is experiencing. I hope it isn't too late to stop this incorrect training at this point!!!

Good Luck!

 

by joanro on 16 March 2014 - 13:03

Bee is correct. I helped train many dogs of many different breeds and they did not go through what your dog is.
The training must be thorough before the dog is allowed to get shocked. She must indicate the appropriate response without your help more than one time before you know the training "took". The prong covers is a good idea...in the early days of Invis fence, we held it in our hand to prevent accidental shock to the dog.
The flags are more for you than dog the dog. Not good to have your dog conditioned to go into avoidance because of a little flag.

by Jody on 16 March 2014 - 13:03

also, I have never felt an electric fence correction that felt like a flea bite..  carry the collar in your hand and walk into it..  you will see it isn't a flea bite. and dogs feel electric more than we do.. 

by 1GSD1 on 16 March 2014 - 13:03

You may be able to get a weaker strength battery for the collar, but the others are right, she shouldn't be feeling it just hearing the ringing. She'd have to feel it once though to understand and most do and get it fast. We had it for well over a decade but it had it's cons and I wouldn't have anything but a real fence again. 

One "con" is they can and will get sores from the contact and the collar will have to be off for a couple of weeks. Check her neck often as it's hard to miss in a thick coated dog and it can get ugly.

The only dog that crossed it ever was a 95 lb Coon hound who was 95 lbs of muscle and a bully. He chased a deer.

by joanro on 16 March 2014 - 13:03

Remember, dogs not only are not wearing shoes like people , but they are grounded by FOUR feet on the ground...it hurts all the way through the body.
You do know that the field which transmits, to activate the shock is a good six feet? The beep is first and a seconds (don't know the exact) later the beep becomes an electric shock. That's why you must teach the dog to respond to the beep immediately, otherwise they get zapped. And they keep on getting zapped as long as they are within the field.





 


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